Mr. Scot

Murray has more "Call of Duty" jokes these days.

Save the effort. I agree and that's what I've seen as well. Edit: Beat me to it

I'm sure the teams do. But it's worth remembering that this is a test of only one aspect of the game. And while it's an important one, it's not a be all, end all. Just as an example, what good is being able to process information quickly if you can't throw an accurate pass to your target?

Fitterer has final say. But I think they'd work as hard as possible to avoid an impasse.

Say good night, Gracie

Also basketball related...

Valid

That's probably my list...

Pretty much where I'm at...

Insatiable thirst for Panthers news? Yeah. Insatiable thirst for Panthers opinions? Eeehhh

There's also risk involved in trading for an established property too. Just ask the Denver Broncos

It should definitely be a very short list. The idea of having the top pick is to get you someone who will be just as good as those guys in a few years, but you have him from the beginning.

Not crazy at all. It hinges on the Panthers having conviction for more than one quarterback, something which pretty much all reports say is true. So if you do the trade, you still get a quarterback you were willing to take at #1, plus you get additional picks. I really can't see where that's a bad deal. Do the Texans make an offer? Gun to my head I'd say no, but I'd also point out that weirder things have happened.

I would love #2 and #12, but I'd also accept #2 and #33 or #2 and next year's first.

Excerpts from the article: The Florida quarterback with the Cam Newton-like physique remains under consideration by the Panthers, according to a source with knowledge of the situation. Though Richardson and Will Levis have been viewed widely as throwaways when it comes to the Panthers’ plans, Richardson is still in the mix. Whether the 6-foot-4, 244-pound Richardson would be — or should be — the pick at No. 1 is another conversation. While there’s no questioning Richardson’s raw talent and potential, I’ve maintained the Panthers gave up too many assets (including a living, breathing one in DJ Moore) to use the first pick on a quarterback who looks like the epitome of a boom-or-bust prospect. Now, if the Panthers were to trade back with Houston and recoup some of the picks they dealt to Chicago, Richardson wouldn’t loom quite as large of a risk for Frank Reich and Scott Fitterer if they took him at No. 2. That scenario makes some sense, provided the draft-pick haul is significant. ... The Panthers already have been involved in trade talks that involved the Texans’ second overall selection. As The Athletic reported, Bears general manager Ryan Poles was intrigued by the possibility of moving down a spot to Houston’s pick at 2, then trading again — this time with the Panthers — to move down to 9. The Panthers were open to the idea. “We were trying to get to 1 or 2, ideally 1,” Fitterer told The Athletic at the NFL owners meetings. “One was really expensive. But then I think it became manageable when we threw in the (second-round pick) in 2025 to get there.” So the Panthers were comfortable with two of the top four quarterbacks when they finalized the trade with Chicago on March 10. Maybe that’s still the case. But while Stroud felt like the favorite — and was the betting favorite in Vegas — for several weeks after the trade, the tide seems to have turned back toward Young, the former Crimson Tide quarterback who is now the oddsmakers’ pick again. ... Richardson also fared well on the S2, which Panthers owner David Tepper is a big believer in. And for good reason: Quarterbacks who have performed well on the test in recent years include Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes and Brock Purdy, who was last year’s high-scorer, Jeremiah said. So Richardson has that going for him, along with a tantalizing skill set. As many predicted, Richardson wowed scouts, GMs and coaches with an epic showing at the combine. ... The problem with Richardson is that too many of his throws hit the ground during his lone season as the Gators’ starter. Richardson completed just 53.8 percent of his passes in 2022, which ranked 105th among 113 FBS quarterbacks. “My completion percentage, some people say, is not great. I don’t think it’s great either,” Richardson said at the combine. “But it’s just growing as a quarterback. Not every year is going to be your best year. I definitely learned a lot from last season.” ... It’s hard to imagine there are many teams better equipped to develop Richardson than Carolina, which — with Reich, Josh McCown and Jim Caldwell — boasts three coaches with extensive experience playing and/or coaching the position. Richardson said in Indianapolis that his combine interview with the Panthers was “great,” and he enjoyed getting to know the coaches and drawing up a few plays for them. It sounds like the feeling was mutual.

Person says the Panthers wouldn't be expected to take Richardson at #1, but could consider him a possible option If they traded down to #2 (which is apparently still on the table). Joe still believes it will probably be Young or Stroud either way.

I'm not sold.on Purdy.

Not sure this one's on Tepper (granted it could be) From what I've read, it sounds like Hurney and Rhule were both comfortable working with Drummond on football stuff (Marty could certainly relate to having no football background) but Fitterer and Reich didn't care to include him on personnel matters.

Ah yes. It was Jack Easterby, hence the speculation that Drummond was a similar figure in our organization. I remember the rumor but I'd forgotten why it came about.

Drummond was involved in the Watson chase?