Mr. Scot

Perspective on this year's QB class in general seems to be...less than positive.

That's not "breaking" I've said before that I get the idea, but these have gotten out of hand. It's like you've gotta look for one, even if it's forced. The biggest thing for me though is the idea that if this guy did it, then anybody else can do it. That's what Breer is arguing against.

I do. I watched Sam Mills play. The reasoning you're employee here is The kind that would lead someone to take Kerry Collins over Drew Brees.

Looks like we're doing decent in that department now though...

I think I'd trust who an actual NFL GM would pick over a kid in a schoolyard. You're basing pretty much your entire argument on physical traits. There is way more to playing quarterback in the NFL than that.

Talked a while back about Russell Wilson comps for Bryce Young, but Albert Breer had a little piece today about the numerous comps people were making to Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts. MMQB for 4/24/23 Breer's take: The Josh Allen comps you hear on quarterbacks are starting to get me a little annoyed. The Jalen Hurts ones, too, and that’s with the acknowledgment that in my overview of the 2023 quarterback class coming Tuesday, you’ll find a guy whose comp is, yup, Allen. That said, here’s where I’m at on it … Really, as I see it, Allen and Hurts give GMs and coaches cover to take chances on raw quarterbacks with skill sets that can be used creatively, which in turn buys them time to develop in the areas needed. Allen’s off-scheduling playmaking ability bought him time to tweak his mechanics and throwing efficiency, which made him more accurate. Hurts’s ability as a runner in an Oklahoma-style option game the Eagles fashioned for him bought him time to progress in throwing from the pocket in general and with anticipation in particular. The truth, though, is those are difficult areas for any quarterback to improve, and, after I tweeted that fact, a quarterbacks coach who works with the elite guys from the time they’re teenagers reached out to echo the point I was making. And he mentioned the football adversity that both Allen and Hurts encountered on their way, which was part of their willingness, ability and relentless drive to keep developing. Just think about it. Hurts started for two years for Alabama, guiding the Crimson Tide to consecutive CFP national title games, only to be benched at halftime of the second of those, watch his team win it all and then never start a game again at the school. He served as a backup at Alabama as a junior and resurfaced the year after at Oklahoma, starting there and playing well enough to get drafted in the second round. Allen, meanwhile, had to go the junior college route out of high school, then thrive at the first school that offered him, Wyoming. Because those guys had to go through so much to get to the NFL, they were equipped to make it once they got there. And to think anyone else can is, well, unrealistic.

I like Bailey sometimes but I vividly remember him heavily defending Matt Rhule. That put me off a lot.

There was a Falcons troll on the board at the time who, right after Gross was picked, posted "swing and a miss". I don't remember who he thought we should have picked but obviously, he was wrong

You're having way too much fun with this

No "almost" for me

Here's a piece from a different source: For context, Giddings Is the owner of the NFL's oldest independent scouting service (founded by his father, a former 49ers player many years back). He's described as someone that NFL people frequently call for "an unbiased opinion". From the article... So, what do I think of Bryce Young? I didn’t know much about him until I studied him the past few weeks. From what I’d heard, I expected to see Joe Montana-like performances – with precision passing, quick decisions, keen awareness and big plays. And I did. But not enough to convince me that he should be the first pick in the draft. In fact, if I were to advise Carolina what to do with the first pick on Thursday night, I’d make my message simple: Buyer, beware. ... But part of a fit is evaluating the player’s strengths and weaknesses and figuring out how to utilize the strengths and not expose the weaknesses. With Young, there are three things I didn’t see in college that would have to improve for me to come around to him: - His deep ball accuracy - Deep-ball diagnosis (chunk) - Avoiding the hits he took in college. Basically, the awareness and diagnosis elements have to go from Red to Blue for him to be a successful NFL quarterback. And if they don’t? Then I have major concerns.

Possible

Some related pre-draft hype... NFL Network is going to be wall to wall on the draft this week. (which Also means Lady Cowboy Fan is going to be happy she still has her day job)

Apparently that's what Kevin Seifert's story is about. Haven't read it yet but I plan to. I have the same question

Thanks, guys.

How much does a Sirius NFL subscription cost?

Everybody remember this? I was laughing my ass off at the time, and I probably wasn't alone

One of the most recent mocks I saw I had us getting him at 39.

Technically announcements

I don't really think I'd call what you're doing an "art"

I'll bet you anything there's no "plot against you".

This is new. Can't recall the NFL doing anything like this in previous drafts. Also can't figure how in their "dress rehearsal script" we got moved back to ninth overall

Were you under the impression that I don't think it's going to be Young?

Well thought out response

What if one of "these bums" wins a Super Bowl?