Mr. Scot

I had actually been wondering the same thing.

It'll only happen if Rhule does something Panthers related...like he did here Most former coaches move on to their new job and don't dwell in the past. Rhule still brings up the Panthers and says things to try and make himself look better...or at least like less of a disaster than he was. Part of the reason why is he likely knows people who can contradict him are generally too classy to stoop to his level. Obviously not a problem for a narcissist like him, though

Voth pretty much indicated it isn't. Either way though, his sole purpose in saying it is to make himself look better and try to deflect blame for the disaster that his Panthers tenure was.

It was initially reported at the time of the draft picks themselves, but not in a negative way. It wasn't considered a defense, just a way of explaining how they worked. Since Fitterer was fired, three or four different analysts have looked back on it and seen it as an issue. And for the record, it's not a defense now either. Working that way was his decision. It basically worked out to drafting by committee (which is objectively a terrible idea).

You're off on your results, though. In the draft where we had 11 picks, we got Horn, Christensen, Hubbard and Tremble, all still with the team and all made contributions last year except Christensen (who even despite that might be the best pick of that class). Others like Shi Smith put in some work as well (still surprised he didn't stay given he would have been perfect for a West Coast type attack). As to how you draft badly, making it a collaborative effort helps a lot. In that draft we got Terrace Marshall because Joe Brady lobbied for him, Thomas Fletcher thanks to Rhule and others. Likewise, we later took Matt Corral because of Ben Mcadoo, DJ Johnson because Ejiro Evero wanted him, Kalin Barnes again from Rhule, and so on. Fitterer's biggest failure was rooted in taking a too collaborative approach with everyone rather than just making the picks straight from the draft board the scouting staff put together. Mind you, the one big "flipside" argument could be Stroud vs Young, depending on what you believe.

Dude, you couldn't "get my goat" if you were a professional goatherder What you've done in this response though is basically admit that I own you since you want so badly to oppose me on anything...even when that opposition is stupid. Not like it wasn't obvious anyway, but hey...

Sure, dude. Pretty much everybody knows Rhule is a lying narcissist. Voth (who would have been there) basically called bullsh-t on his claim. But if you wanna try and defend Rhule on this one, good luck. It's dumb, but good luck anyway.

Voth said he left after the final pick. That would have been the time I'd have expected the team to be calling on undrafted guys.

You've just devoted about a dozen paragraphs and a buttload of words to defending him in this thread alone, not to mention what you said in the other one. So apparently you do

Still trying to carry water for Matt Rhule? Have fun with that

Rhule is full of sh-t.

You fire the coach who wanted them and change systems. That's not an argument that we should have kept Rhule, but It's something that you do have to take into account when you're evaluating draft picks.

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Bill Voth basically called bullsh-t on him with his statement.

Not anymore, at least.

Given what the power structure was, you could post a picture of Rhule by himself and ask the same question.

Here's some strong words... Shanle is a Nebraska alumnus.

Evan Cooper, longtime Rhule assistant coach, had a personnel related title here too if I remember correctly...

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