Mr. Scot

Since before, actually. I was following when the team was announced. I've been a football fan since 1972. Hell, when I was a kid they played six preseason games. Later on, they cut it down to four, then a few years ago to three. The league is looking to cut it down even further, and general belief is that they will. Through all that time, preseason / exhibition or whatever else they were called, they've always been about player evaluation, nothing more. Hell, these games probably mean less now than they ever did.

"We want answers" is apparently back It never has. Hell, given the changes made in the past few years, if anything it means even less today than it did before.

If Young (or anyone else) gets hurt in the regular season, it won't have jack sh-t to do with us losing preseason games.

It's pretty bad, for sure. Matt Rhule hangover would be my guess.

T'would seem otherwise

He doesn't know football, even basic stuff.

Yikes

Starting when I was five or so, I've run about fifty at this point. Coming up on thirty as a Panthers fan. Some good, some bad, some ugly. Hopeful to have thirty or forty more, God willing.

I'm gonna be very interested in next offseason.

This one starts on September 10th. Likely finishes January 7th. Could conceivably last a little longer but I wouldn't expect it. Another one will start about a year later.

Season one of a rebuild, even one with skilled people doing the building, is about laying the foundation. Wins are gravy.

Nah I'm a big fan of maturity though, and that isn't what's being shown here. Ditto patience. Football season is a marathon, not a sprint. Preseason is basically stretching and warming up before you run.

Pretty much...

That's not a personal attack. And sorry, but he's actually correct.

It is just preseason. And it will be just Week 1. I've mentioned it a couple of times already. You won't get an accurate sense of what the team truly is until around midseason. If you doubt that, just look back to a couple of years ago when we started 4-0 when were talking playoffs. Every single season there are teams who start off looking bad but finish strong and other teams who start strong but fade. This year will be no exception. If you can't see that, or can't handle it I can't help you. My only hope is that we fall into the first category, but I'm not putting any lofty expectations on anyone given the circumstances. Talk to me next year...

Yeah, after your OP in this thread, you're not in a position to "yikes" anyone. Preseason over reaction isn't anything new, but this year it's gotten damn near unhinged.

Actually, it kinda is. And getting crazy upset over a preseason game is kinda silly

Same...

Newton had an awful preseason three performance in preseason three (back when that game mattered more). Then his preseason four footprint was one good series, after which the staff said "we've seen enough". It worked out okay.

To the "impressive" list, I'd add the cameraman who caught this footage...

Even as a 4-3 DE, he's a rotational player at best.

Maybe on Bizarro World...

You're wasting your time. Everything he knows about football would fit on a Post-It note...and you'd still have room for a grocery list. To give you an example, he was explaining elsewhere how he believes the starters should play a full game in preseason 3.

I don't know if we're going to have a massive turnaround in week one, but to be honest I don't care. Said elsewhere you can't really judge how good your team genuinely is until around midseason, and with this being a new start it'll likely take even longer than that. For folks that question that idea, remember how a couple of years ago we started 4-0 and thought maybe Matt Rhule's year three magic had come a season early?

I'm starting to miss the day is when people waited until the first quarter of game one before they started freaking out I go further than that, honestly. Realistically speaking, you don't know how good (or bad) your team actually is until about midseason. And in the case of a restart with a new coach, sometimes even later. But of course, you're always gonna have those people who want to say they called it first