Mr. Scot

Pretty sure when the day comes that Hardy actually does sign somewhere else, this board will be a festival of silliness and stupidity not seen since...last year when Steve Smith was let go.

Technically he is 'released'. They've made clear that the Exempt List does not prohibit him from signing a free agent contract. I'll grant not knowing how long he'll be suspended might put some teams off, but apparently not the Raiders.

A mediocre whiner. It's funny. We frequently joke on here about stupid people thinking that jut because they win at Madden, they could actually run an NFL team. And yet as many times as that joke's been made, here you have a guy come right out and say it. Unbelievable

You mean that's not gonna happen? I'm shocked

And then there'll be one.

Don Gregory and the scouting department. Hurney had no scouting experience that I can recall (would have to look it up to be sure)

I remember that. Makes you wonder how different our record last year might have been with better special teams.

That a lot of people in this thread apparently haven't listened to. (but clearly should)

I've become convinced nobody here actually listens to anything team leadership says.

You wouldn't troll either, right?

They also tend to be drama queens.

Pre Harbaugh purge

Right. Everything worked in our favor despite the 'joke' GM. He's just lucky. Good Lord

You really wanna appeal to defending Hurney (see, this is where you clearly show you've lost the argument) When was the first time that core of players helped the Panthers make the playoffs? Or, to put it another way, what GM built the roster on which they did?

I admit that thought's crossed my mind too. I'm fairly confident we'll have a better, deeper roster than last year by the time the season rolls around. Having that better roster would (hopefully) minimize depth chart mistakes. And of course, the sad flipside is that what injury giveth, injury can taketh away

Uh huh Face it, dude. We're in a way better spot than we have been in our team history since Gettleman took over. Whine and bitch to your heart's content if that's what makes you happy, but you're off base.

You're gonna gloat on that for a while, aren't you?

Well, at least one more since Tuesday.

Except we did, and did so on the strength of a late season run fueled by rookies drafted by what you called our "joke" of a GM.

Didn't sound like it to me, but if you say you meant it differently than I read, I'll take your word for it.

Hard to say. Maybe there were things Gettleman needed to learn that he wouldn't have if he'd come to us earlier. (we're getting into 'butterfly effect' territory now)

By season's end - when injuries starting making Rivera's depth chart decisions for him - yes we were. And finishing strong does a lot for a team.

And yet his team has been in the playoffs back to back seasons. And we had our best rookie class ever. Plus we're getting out of our salary cap hole. And we're pretty well positioned for the future. Oh but wait, he didn't throw all our cap money at a guy you wanted on the second day of free agency with months to go and the draft still upcoming. You're right. He must not know what he's doing

You already promised that once, and yet here you are again.

Hurney managed three winning seasons out of eleven years in charge and put us in a cap hell that we're still trying to fix. He was not a good GM.