Mr. Scot

The next highest vote getter had three and a half, less than half the votes Green-Beckham got. Point being any team that takes him is taking a big risk. There are others with just as much talent who don't have the baggage. People talk like we're passing on the next Jerry Rice. I don't buy it, and neither do these pro scouts.

From Rotoworld:

Up to you, man. But honestly I think you should at the very least admit that the "he should have gone Ray Rice on her" comment was poorly worded. You can talk context if you want but there really isn't any context that's gonna make that sound like a good statement. I don't believe that's your character, but if you wanna stand by that it could very easily give people the wrong impression.

My opinion of Peat has gone back and forth.

Moss never won a Super Bowl.

That's pretty thin, dude. Not to mention wrong, given that Hardy currently has a spot on an NFL roster and Ray Rice doesn't (many believe he never will again). I've seen enough of your posts to know you're not the kind of person who would support the idea that any woman deserves to get hit. Unfortunately, the things that you're posting in this argument make you sound that way. And I'm not the only one to say that in this thread. You really do need to take a step back.

That's why I'm giving you the benefit of a doubt. You're writing some stuff here that's out of character for you. Like I said, breathe.

Dude, you're letting yourself get way too worked up over this. For your own good, take a step back and breathe. You might wind up saying some things you regret.

Does that kind of woman deserve to get smacked around? I certainly don't believe that's your intent, but this kind of response makes it sound like you think that.

I was confused there

Rice only getting two games was never right, and regardless of motive, the NFL did the right thing by suspending him indefinitely. Even though he's officially reinstated, Rice is pretty much a pariah now. Meanwhile, Hardy has a contract and will get paid something this season, which is unlikely to happen for Rice. I'd definitely say Rice has it worse than Hardy at the moment.

That's one thing that gets me. To hear people talk you'd think he was the greatest receiver prospect of all time.

Yeah...That's just not right.

Something I wish more people understood...

Loads of athletes are catered to their entire lives. By the time they get to the pros, they believe they're entitled to it. The world revolves around them. For guys like that, when the time comes that they actually have to face real consequences for their actions, it often doesn't go well.

Worth remembering that the length of the suspension doesn't automatically mean he's reinstated after ten games. The commissioner has the choice of whether to reinstate you at that time or not. Hardy and his people wanna consider that before putting stuff like that out there.

I wouldn't have paid him that much.

Sincerely doubt it.

I'm not surprised that he was suspended, but the length of it is a bit of a shock. I was expecting four games (a compromise between the two that Ray Rice got and the six for first time offenders under the new policy).

I'd bet on it being way more than the NCAA knows about.

On Outside The Lines (ESPN) they pointed out that this is a different story than the one he told Jimbo Fisher at the time he story first broke, the story which Fisher then related to reporters. The original story was that he was used to a different type of store so he got confused and didn't realize he hadn't paid for the crab legs. To be honest, that's a pretty farfetched story. The employee hookup sounds much more believable. Now, it's plausible to think that the reason behind the original story could have been to keep from getting the employee in trouble. But yeah, it's also possible he's just lying and couldn't keep his story straight. The truth? Honestly don't know. The one thing I do know is that the kid has shown a fair share of bad judgment. What the Bucs have to decide is if it's a case of 'young and dumb' or 'just plain dumb'.

Only when they are.

Should they have evaluated Lawrence Phillips? Nobody changes anything when they're suspended. Putting a risky guy in an important position on your team is not smart.

Taking a guy who's a suspension risk is not "caring more about winning". As Gettleman said, it's hard enough building a roster without worrying that a key player is a 'time bomb'.

Before their most recent episodes, people wanted us to trade high picks for them. We've got some folks on here that are more obsessed with 'bad boys' than teenage girls. Every time some yahoo gets in trouble or gets suspended, they're on here in a heartbeat ready to go after him. Heck, we had people who wanted Titus Young, for pete's sake