Mr. Scot
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I'm coming around to the belief that we didn't go the quarterback route that Frank Reich wanted, whether it was Derek Carr CJ Stroud or whomever. If true, there are two people potentially responsible for that... One of them is Scott Fitterer. He himself said he was sold on Young long before Reich ever got here. But he's also known as a consensus builder and a believer in collaborative approaches. So does it make sense that he'd override the head coach he hired? The other option, of course, is David Tepper. And on that front, you've got numerous examples of him interfering in both big and small ways with football operations. But perhaps more to the point, the chatter from reliable sources (including Reich) that he's too hands on. Mind you, it could also be a combination, i e. Fitterer being basically the right hand of Tepper. In a case like that, it doesn't matter who the GM is because they're just a figurehead. What's the truth? Wish I knew.
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Canty low-key just battered Bryce on Greeny
Mr. Scot replied to top dawg's topic in Carolina Panthers
We've got a quarterback that's ideally suited to a West Coast Offense surrounded with ten positions manned by Coryell type players. That's just not gonna work, and what makes it worse is it's an extremely difficult problem to fix. -
Not really... The offense has predominantly Coryell style personnel. That includes both the line and the skill players. To run that system, you need a longball style quarterback like Stroud. Heli, even Anthony Richardson would hit that sort of approach. Instead, we have a West Coast type of quarterback.
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See above. I've been hesitant to judge Scott Fitterer based on the circumstances. That doesn't make me a fan, but I get called that a lot. I am a legitimate fan of Frank Reich, and have been for a long time. But if you were to ask me who's more responsible for where we're at right now, that's when I'd point you to the previous post. And yes, David Tepper scares me. He should scare all of us
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It's still valid to point out that this was the first year of a rebuild. (yes I know they said otherwise, but it still is; even Steve Smith acknowledged that last night) Here's the thing though... The GM doesn't determine the coaching schemes. He ideally gets players that are suited for those schemes, but he doesn't pick what schemes to use or what players to start. So now that we have a mismatch between personnel and scheme, how did that come about? Did Fitterer pick the wrong guys? Maybe, but that's kind of hard to say given that we know he took a lot of input from the coaching staff on both the draft and free agents (Miles Sanders, for example). You also have a head coach who came in stating that he believed in tooling the scheme to the players, not the other way around. That's why I say you have to see where the problem really is before deciding just to fire somebody because if you fire the wrong guy, you've only made it worse.
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You could argue that they did have a system you could have dropped a quarterback into, just not this quarterback. You've got a West Coast quarterback trying to run an offense that's pretty poorly tooled for a West Coast attack. It's not so poorly built for a Coryell style quarterback, but that's not what we have.
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In an ideal Coach/GM relationship, The coach tells the GM the kind of players he needs (maybe even naming specific guys) and the GM goes out and gets them. Lots of different ways that can go wrong of course, but that's the way it's supposed to work. And at least based on what's known of the guys we have in place, that's what everybody was expecting. The question is where did it go wrong...
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David Tepper has to be the most hated man in Carolina right?
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Stephen Holder is a guy who's covered the Colts for several years. If I remember correctly he's currently with The Athletic. Nicole's connection also means he's very well acquainted with Frank Reich. -
To appease the masses. Does it actually accomplish anything positive? Not really. Now if no changes are made or progress is seen by the end of the season, then it might be time to talk.
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He gave up playcalling, something a lot of people believed would make a difference. It did. We got worse.
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Canty low-key just battered Bryce on Greeny
Mr. Scot replied to top dawg's topic in Carolina Panthers
I get what he's saying, but I still find it extremely hard to judge Young when he's constantly under pressure and doesn't have the people around him to run the attack we're trying to run. -
There's enough offensive knowledge on this staff between guys like Reich, Caldwell, Staley and others that such a basic misunderstanding would seem unthinkable. Yet here we are...
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It's a real possibility...
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Hubbard thrived last year as a straight ahead type runner though. Hell, he's arguably the best looking back we've got this year. Sure could use a healthy Shenault too, though.
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Young is somebody who ought to be ideal for a WCO, honestly. But that only works if you can block for him, and if you have West Coast type receivers. We're lacking in both those areas.
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He's got the kind of speed that would make him a great option to catch short passes and take them for long runs. That's a staple of WCO attacks, but I don't know that we have anyone who suits that role. At the very least, I'd expect him to be an Az Zahir-Hakim type player here.
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And here's what I don't get... You've got guys like Jim Caldwell, a successful head coach in his own right, in the mix. Plus someone like Duce Staley who's worked not only with Reich but with Ben Johnson and others. And of course, Reich, who pioneered things like mesh concepts and triangle reads. How, in the midst of all that, does no one see the mismatch between personnel and approach? This especially when it was stated from the beginning that the idea was to tailor the schemes to the players?
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Frank helped, at least with concepts and things like that. That's per Brown's own words. But yeah, It's not working.
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There's a huge mismatch between the offensive personnel we have and the type of attack we're trying to run.
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But scoring the most points in the division. Mind you, Reich is far from blameless, but I think the issues he's responsible for are different, arguably higher level. (personnel and depth chart decisions primarily)
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The story with Mingo was that he made such an incredible impression on the coaching staff here that they felt like they just had to have him. He doesn't really suit a WCO though. Downs absolutely would.
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He did. Brown wrote the playbook using concepts he borrowed from Reich, McVay and his own experience. From what I've seen, the play designs haven't been anything special. I don't really get a sense of him calling plays to set up other plays or anything like that either. It's possible he's doing that but I'm not seeing it.
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We were scoring more points.
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Personnel usage (or misusage) is, in my mind, the number one issue we have right now.
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Ickey isn't a West Coast tackle. He's a great power running tackle, but a WCO tackle needs to be more agile and less heavy-footed. If we keep this approach, I could definitely see moving him to guard and either getting a different left tackle or just trying Christensen out there again.