Mr. Scot

Valid, but he has also admitted that when he hired Matt Rhule, he firmly believed he was going to "show everybody in the league how it was done". I've gotten the impression that while he likes to present himself as humble, behind the scenes it may not be as true as he'd like us to think.

Good grief

As long as there's still turf in Charlotte, not sure it helps anything

I'd agree. That's not the flex he thought it was. It was just petty.

I go back to the old quote attributed to John Wayne, "Life is hard. It's harder if you're stupid" Not knowing what you're doing is nowhere near as big a problem as not knowing what you're doing but thinking that you do. This is where I have issues with David Tepper.

Maybe Jerry Richardson pissed him off somehow 🫥

Jim Caldwell Is the guy who got Frank into coaching. Don't buy for a minute that he would have anything to do with this. The most reasonable suspicion seems to fall on James Campen and Chris Tabor, though I would say others who had no background with Reich may well be involved also.

Yesterday, I had to go to my optometrist and get an injection in my left eyeball. I think that was probably less painful than reading this story

Tepper and Haslam haven't exactly done wonders for people in that role who want to be owners

The Horseshit Way

Unfortunately, it's not like "the person he was working for" has exactly been successful in his role. What I'll say in Frank's favor is that he really should have been allowed to hire anybody he wanted without interference. It might not have gone any better, but it would have been a much fairer approach. (and most likely a lot less toxic) I can't really put anything positive on people running to the owner. That's just childish behavior and certainly not something a professional does.

Russini's story definitely isn't helping on that front

Sounds like it. Overcorrection definitely seems to be a David Tepper thing.

I'm not a fan of betting on people who have no idea what they're doing getting lucky.

Good point. I hadn't looked back at the histories yet.

I think what ultimately doomed Frank is that he wanted to take a slow approach, and maybe wasn't as hard on players as he should have been. Now with that said, I don't see how anybody could win in an environment that encourages the kind of bullsh-t we're hearing about.

Which is a shame because it's inevitable you're also going to be throwing out some good people along with the bad. But yeah...

My thing would be leave that to the next head coach. It's a nice idea, but ownership meddling in the staff building process is part of why we are where we are now.

I don't think there's any other option at this point... Seriously

I'd agree

That's not at all how a professional adult operates though. If you have issues with somebody, you go to that person. Running to the boss just screams selfish, out for themselves person.

I mean, the good side of it would be that with all this coming out, Tepper has to fix things now, right? Right?

I like Campen and Tabor both, but with stuff like this, how could a new coach feel comfortable keeping them? Hell, how would anybody feel comfortable hiring them if this stuff is true?

With the stuff we're hearing from Dianna Russini today, I'm no longer sure it even matters who we drafted. Hell, we had a great offensive line built last year but look at things now.

Similar feelings...and I was here through both 2001 and 2010.