Mr. Scot

Weird, but I could've sworn there was more to an offense than just skill players Did the league change to a 7 on 7 format while i wasn't looking? Also weird that i could have sworn i actually changed my mind on Fitterer deserving more time after the stuff about him backstabbing Reich came out, but maybe you remember my memories better than I do That or maybe you're just looking to try and distract from the weakness of your arguments again. (I wonder which it is)

So are you. ... Seriously though, I don't suggest teams or fans utterly ignore stats, but I do think it's extremely important to understand their limitations. For me, I rarely see them offer enough info to merit putting a high priority on them. Enough so that i don't even bother anymore. (ditto league rankings, who gives a sh-t) It's funny because outside of football I'm a huge math nerd who runs everything on spreadsheets Not football though. And that'll never change.

I don't buy into PFF either. And I'd credit this year's upswing to guys like Brandt Tilis way more than i would low level staffers from PFF. Fitterer was a big analytics guy (or at least became one when he got hired on here). Morgan prefers old school eyeball scouting. It's very possible that the more guys Morgan brings in to replace old hires, the better we could become.

Well, given that you can't seem to actually win an argument without resorting to misrepresentation of your opponent's position (like you're doing here) I can't say I blame you for backing down

Or undercredit him... See, here's the thing... Bryce isn't good enough. He doesn't have to be the worst in the league or in history or even this season to not be good enough. He just has to be, right now...not good enough. Yet somehow, it isn't enough to just say that. When someone saya he's not good enough but dismisses the hyperbole, your response is to devote significant effort to basically argue "Nuh uh! He is so the worst ever! And if you don't believe that well then you're just a Bryce atan engaging in Brycemania!" This is what For Jimmy was calling out, and he's right. It's like trying to debate complicated philosophy with an emotional child And yes, it's obsessive behavior.

Wrong again. It's not about Bryce at all Here's a key paragraph... Bryce is mentioned here, but only because he's the current big topic of conversation. I could leave his name out or replace it with anyone else's and the point would remain the same. So no, it isn't about Bryce. It's about stat based analysis in general. Now, you could conceivably attempt to debate against the actual thrust of the argument, but i doubt you will. Maybe that's because it's easier to sneak and make excuses, or maybe it's because you can't. The result is the same either way though

Baseball is waaaayy better suited to statistical analysis than football. If a hitter hits a home run, it's pretty much his own effort though the point goes to the team as a whole. For a team to score a touchdown (let's say via pass) the center has to make a good snap, he and the rest of the line have to block well enough to keep the defense from getting to the quarterback, the quarterback has to throw a good pass, the receiver has to run the correct route and catch the ball, the other potential targets have to effectively play their roles, and so on and so on and so on... Any single one of those things going wrong can short circuit the whole thing, and even if it's all done right the defense might still stop it. Individual stats just don't paint a complete picture. There are too many variables. To get an accurate picture that way requires looking at things from several different angles, something most folks are either ill equipped or unwilling to do. I don't bother with all that. I just watch the game and go by what I know.

Post an at least halfway intelligent response and I'll consider it (not holding my breath though)

Thanks for your usual level of contribution

This is a Bryce thread? You know it's okay to say an argument is too complex for you. I wouldn't think any less.

Brycemania...yeah, sure Hell, if I thought we could win every game by bringing back Chris Weinke and going wildcat all the time, I'd order a #16 jersey right now. I like winning. I don't really give a sh-t how it happens.

Canales played a pretty big role in that. (Jaycee Horn falling down a couple of times did too)

I'd want an insurance policy

Or maybe by who's healthy at the moment... (that kinda matters)

So just to be clear, you'd take JT Sanders, Xavier Legette, banged up Austin Corbett, banged up Taylor Moton, banged up Rico Dowdle and whatever third stringer is starting at center this week over Juwan Johnson, Mason Tipton, Cesar Ruiz, Taliwse Fuaga, Alvin Kamara and Luke Fortner? You sure you wanna stick with that story? (especially after our last game against them)