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16 hours ago, Johnstonny said:

7 years is patient enough I'd say.

right so proving my point by tying XL's success before he plays one real game to 7 years of evaluating someone who isn't XL

35 minutes ago, NorthTryon said:

Well, I expected some relax, its not that serious posts. First some players bloom later. Look at James Harrison and Cameron Wake. Secondly, did you see the QB room the guy's first few years at SC? Furthermore, I get the drafting negativity as the Rhule/Fitterer years left this team so devoid of talent it was scary. People aren't willing to even give Morgan a shot, much like John Lynch who was a broadcaster before becoming the architect of the San Francisco juggernaut. The guy knows football players, he just has the stink of Fitterer on him. Lastly, you saying my post is identical to Mingo and TMJ is exactly my point. There weren't a bunch of people basically alluding to them as busts after preseason last year or TMJ's rookie year. That is lame to do so after training camp and three preseason games, two of which the guy didn't even play. 

bust vibes before week one is outright insane, i agree with you there, and it screams not being around the game long--Steve Smith caught 10 passes his rookie year. this board/fanbase is not currently in the business of caring about rationality or patience

20 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

The problem is we didn't have enough starters healthy early on.  Our LG is just getting healthy, Hunt was in and out of joint practice, XL was injured, and Johnson is injured.  It would be our QB behind an incomplete OL without his first round WR and he best WR.  Tremble was also banged up along with out backup tackle and backup QB (imagine if Dalton's injury lingered and Bryce gets hurt.  You want Plummer in the regular season?).  I think this is why he didn't play them early.  He kept saying we see how they are looking health wise before he made a decision.  So he could trot out half an offense or try to make some play through mild injuries that could turn more severe.  

Now if you are wanting reps vs starters that is tough to find.  The Pats played their starters for 1 series and the Jets didn't play them at all.  So that would have been one brief series of a offense missing key pieces going against a Pats defense in week 1. 

Again there are 100s of different factors that go into this, which is why there isn't one specific way to do it. 

This all makes sense and I don't disagree with any of it, it's just frustrating that a 2 win team is essentially fronting that we can't use all the reps we can get (esp given new system, new staff, and OL/roster turnover). I have seen enough freak preseason/training camp injuries to know that health is paramount, but I do think young QBs getting reps is important no matter the situation.  I say that to also say I'm not sure how much any rep last year helped Bryce considering we couldn't run for 3 yards, run block, pass block, run a route, catch a ball, or put all of those things together for more than like 15 plays in an entire season so I digress 

Jeremy Shockey was pretty good Cam's rookie year/probably helped Greg in a lot of ways become what he became to the franchise

On 8/16/2024 at 8:55 PM, MillionDollarCam said:

So we added Ream and Pep Biel. Not great but decent transfer window. Should get us to the playoffs.

the game on 8/24 is a massive one with a team we're looking up at in the standings. Great time to go for anyone with any remote interest.  It's time to make a big push, and this is a big one to kick it off.  Hopeful that Ream has plenty left in the tank (and Privett being available to spell him/keep him fresh and learn from him is awesome), and it's sick to have a contributing US MNT player on our roster.

As far as Biel--if he had been the first name we heard we probably would have been fine with it. Instead we spend entire transfer windows lauding fans with what ifs that never materialize. It's exhausting.  But I trust Dean and I hope we can gel and have a nice stretch run here. Hosting a playoff MLS game would be an amazing atmosphere.

18 hours ago, Anybodyhome said:

Laine went to the Habs for a former 3rd round pick in D-man Jordan Harris and a 2026 2nd round pick. Columbus retains no salary.

Harris signed a 2-year extension in February for $1.4M AAV.

In other words, Columbus unloaded Laine for peanuts .

 

to a non contending team who can afford to find out if there's anything there. and as you said previously--it seems pretty likely that his next stop goes exactly how his last few have

retread selfish me first dudes dont tend to do well in Brindamour's system where you have to defend first

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/40733879/usmnt-tim-ream-move-charlotte-final-stages

apparently this is very close to official.  Topbin says he expects a departure.  I'm not sure it will be on defense. I think maybe Brecht because of salary.  Sounds like we are still looking for a 10.

2 hours ago, Anybodyhome said:

To be honest, the only person to make any inference that he didn't want to be here was his dad. Martin has never said he didn't want to be here, nor has he mentioned anywhere else he wanted to play.

If his arbitration award is a 1-year deal, I expect Carolina will trade him at the TDL, depending on the season results. If he gets a 2-year deal, he may end up staying for a bit.

I, for one, don't have a problem giving him a shot playing 2C with Kuz on the wing. Keep Jarvy on the Aho line. I think Kuznetsov is a bigger scoring threat on the wing.

I don't disagree with any of this. At the same time, I think he plays at odds with our system and you can see that sometimes it works out and is flashy (and therefore lends making it easier to say why don't we grant him a bigger role and/or more freedom) but sometimes, it lends to the exact things Rod tries to prevent (bad giveaways/odd man breaks/unnecessary turnovers).

Necas is still very young in the sense that he still has improvement in him even in the facets of his game he's best at.  I worry though here because it seems like he is putting us in a really tough place with negotiations which both lessens his value on open market and lessens his trade value.  The early rumors of not wanting to sign here don't really match up with him just turning down a possible extension with several other playoff teams.  If he doesn't know what he wants and can't be decisive about it then it gives no sides any leverage including teams trying to make calls about him.  Guentz may have strung us along and screwed us, but at least it's done and over with. 

I just want this to end so we know exactly where we stand. I don't love including him in an Ehlers trade, but if we're losing him anyway it would make sense. Just hard to feel like at this point any side is going to get the best of any deal cause it rarely improves for all parties as time goes on.

Just now, MillionDollarCam said:

It looks like next year is going to be the year that a lot of young guys get a chance.

in itself i didn't/don't have an issue with this. And our main point has always been that we didn't want to be one of the go for it all teams at the deadline because we have a window that has term with Slavin/Aho/Svech/Jarvy. 

however. keeping martinook above market value and not combining the youth influx with things like changing things at goalie and or signing a big name as a guentz replacement just feels like so far we're kind of sitting this out, and i really dont like the idea of taking a large step backwards from pre deadline roster last year. i understand we've given this a run with the same guys and it hasn't worked and changing some things there. but we also know exactly what our glaring issues are. so to not get better at those while also getting worse/losing big time names in other areas is pretty disheartening thus far. Hope there's more to come.

10 minutes ago, t96 said:

It's a little more than I'd have liked to pay and 1 year longer than I'd have liked but this post is ridiculous. He was put on waivers before the 2022 season, nearly 2 years ago, not "months ago." Since clearing waivers he has put up 27 goals and 66 points in the bottom 6, while providing great D, PKing and physicality. And 16 points in 26 playoff games. I absolutely can't stand when Rod plays him on the top line but Martinook is an extremely valuable 3rd liner. I have no problem with this move.

he turns 32 in a month. the reason we are letting TT, Skjei type guys go is because we're betting on youth to fill instead of overpaying guys who are probably not going to get better/faster etc at this point. Martinook has been on the top of his game, yes. But that's exactly what the complete ceiling looks like, and he's getting older and was never the fastest/most skilled guy regardless. We outbid ourselves.

35 minutes ago, TheCandyMan said:

Friedman also reported Jordan Martinook is returning to the Carolina Hurricanes on a three-year contract with a $3.05 million AAV.

https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-free-agency-live-blog

 

I like Martinook, but this is an objective overpay for a dude who cleared waivers months ago

https://x.com/Canes/status/1803081577003438591

Think this was the right move. He was always the guy driving the analytics--hopefully he has learned the other parts of the trade under Waddell. It's worth seeing rather than losing him for sure.  Let's get some dudes locked down!

I have both so I wouldnt need to trade, but I have 2 seats in 253 row 15, and I know my seat neighbors so 4 total available for some matches all that can be had at face value with no fees etc

4 hours ago, carpanfan96 said:

Even if he takes a slight discount, you’re still talking about 9-10AAV. I’m not sure they offer it tbh. 

idk. if they brought him here with the hope of re-signing him they knew it would take 8 at bare minumum. i'd go 8.5 with term easy. we can save some money letting skjei/pesce walk, trading necas and or kk. it's all about what Jake wants. if it's me in the twilight of my career i'm taking 8.5 over 10 to stay on a team this close and that seems like where his priorities are which makes a difference. I'm just hopeful

47 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Yeah because latest projections are for his contract to be 7x10.5AAV. 
 

Necas is projected at 7x7.5AAV. 
 

don’t think Carolina pays either that kind of money. 

Guentz has said great things about being here and caring about winning over money.  I think it's possible we can get both him and Jarvis on a slight discount

Fred had a terrible elimination game, but if our PK/PP was anything less than absolutely dog poo in games 1-3, game 6 would have been our closeout game based on his play. so....yeah.  While I think this year Kotchetkov needs to get the majority of games and if things aren't going well we need to jump at trade deadline---it's easiest to blame Fred because of a couple mistakes directly in the elimination game that never should have been

Agyemang had a 'oh that's why he should be just young fresh legs off the bench game' last night. Feels like we should have had five goals. He definitely should have drawn a penalty (after we were down 3-0) but he has got to start simplifying things/burying the easy ones. Please go spend money in the transfer window. We got a great coach..that much is obvious. Please do not handcuff him. We said we were gonna party and spend. St Louis City says they're a budget team who isn't going to spend the lights out. Right now, we're spending less than them.  Go. Spend. Money. On. Real. DPs.

I've always thought that Tulsky is the guy driving the analytics/signings and that Don is the iron out figurehead. I'm hoping Tulsky has been groomed and that the 'search' is a formality. I would be ok with hiring another figure above Tulsky but I'd rather Tulsky be GM than us lose him if we hire over him

On 5/12/2024 at 2:47 PM, MtnJax said:

Big Pat seemed to really take the reins last night knowing it’s finally his spot

he's been good, but it's not his spot. We will 100% get a DP there come summer window. Pat will be amazing coming in against tired legs, but he's still young and he's not going to replace a DP type big money player that we'll need to truly contend in the east

https://theathletic.com/live-blogs/premier-league-news-live-updates-latest/ohSDwMWMcgdZ/E9kwdYOdEWZ7/

He's had a tough start to the season, and definitely hasn't been worth a DP spot. This opens us up to sign 2 DP in the summer window. Just gotta survive on pace for two months in the meantime.

On 5/5/2024 at 8:52 PM, MtnJax said:

Definitely wanna see more Petkovic. Agyemang is better off the bench imo. Our attack is missing way too many easy chances. Hope Abada isn’t out long. Can’t help but think the score would’ve been higher if he was playing

Smith said today he expects him back 5/29 at the earliest. Which sucks bad.

2 minutes ago, Popsickle said:

Full send on the JAG line, we need that line out there, being feared and gameplay panned against. Not us playing their game. 

it's not that i disagree with this sentiment as much as objectively i think Svechnikov has been our best all around player in the playoffs altogether

Wish we had gotten Fred rest for game 4 of the first round series, and gotten Pyotr in for a lower pressure situation.  At this point because of 2OT Fred has to get rest, but I don't love going to him only when forced.

Win at home and give ourselves another chance to steal a roadie.  We're in this until we're not. Let's fudgin go CANES

Fred has had a half season of rest, and he's the guy. I think Rod learned from the Florida series, and in general. Rest for Bob last year was overrated. It mattered eventually, sure, but there can be both a better balance while still featuring the guy. And Fred is the guy. It's nice that Pyotr at this age already has playoff experience, but in my opinion, not starting him in game 4 was the ultimate sign that Rod is riding Fred until otherwise noted. And I think Fred has earned that in his time since his injury. I don't hate a better balance, but I think game 4 was the perfect time with no pressure to do it and the fact that we didn't spoke volumes.  His leash will inevitably be shorter with the struggles, but he's been solid overall.