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For the “I’d rather have accuracy” crowd bringing up George and Manziel as examples. Just give me a break. Both are known for being lazy arrogant assholes, and Willis is known to be very smart, hard working and a great leader. Doesn’t mean Willis will improve, but you can feel confident he will work extremely hard at it. Personally I have no interest in a Mac Jones type and his limitations. I’d rather roll the dice with upside. That being said, we really need to draft a LT and wait a year to draft a QB.

I definitely think Willis has question marks. But saying him and PJ are the same is just ridiculous. I put more weight on people like Dane Brugler who currently have him as his 32nd player overall. Hence I found my response appropriate.

I hear you, I’m just not ready to say next year is great yet. Not convinced last years class was great either, but we’ll see.

They do. But the point is that this time last year everyone was taking about Rattler and Howell being clear cut number ones etc. We’ll see what it looks like this time next year. It looks like a potentially strong class next year, but it is far from guaranteed.

I still think 3 DEs, one CB and one OT will go ahead of us. I think Kayvon’s fall is a media creation, and not true for NFL teams. But I’m admittedly trying to stay optimistic.

I prefer a LT, but if I had to pick I’d take Willis. I like Corral but I don’t know if he’ll stay healthy.

First of all, I’m not endorsing this but also, if you hate it just don’t respond and ruin the actual purpose of the thread. I could see where we get Neal with our sixth pick and Corral being available when Philly is doing their three picks. It would really set us up for adding a rookie QB and lean heavy on the run game and be able to ease in a rookie. I also believe Philly is interested in moving one of their first round picks to next year. What would the cost be to acquire their 15/16th pick? Our 1 in 2023 and our 4th this year? 1 and 3 in 2023?

They will potentially draft one In the first round (6th or trade back), if they don’t they will probably get someone like Garapolo at a low cost. I think Fitterer is very comfortable with the plan itself, but he doesn’t know where it will end at this point. But I felt it was clear that his philosophy is that you need to draft your long term QB this draft or the next one.

Exactly, he hadn’t established himself as mediocre, nobody knew what he could do. Picket had three straight seasons of close to identical results. And sure, anyone can improve, one would however expect a more gradual improvement.

The big difference was that Joe wasn’t mediocre for three straight years before his breakout year. That’s the odd thing here.

Jeremiah was the latest one I saw, but I’ve seen it a couple of places.

This is a great point. If you like his ranking and you say you want to listen to him, you wouldn’t want any of these QBs in the first round. Using his ranking and then take one in round one when he says not to…

More and more mock drafts have either Ickey or Evan Neal falling out of the top 5. Adding either of them to our line would make for the best line we’ve had in a long time. I also have the feeling based on interviews with Fitts that if there is a blue chip OT available that is the pick. This is getting really exciting!!!

I read somewhere that we need $9m for the draft and want to have $10 for the season. Might have been a tweet from J Alexander

Mac Jones didn’t look great last year, that’s the one I can think of. His deep ball was really rough.

Adding abysmal coaching in college to the fact that he blew people away in his interviews shows tremendous upside. Have no idea if it will work out or not, but all the ingredients are there, no doubt.

I struggle with the fact that he is a four year starter that was mediocre for three years and then great for one year. Other QBs that have had a great year and then get drafted didn’t have three bad years before that, it was more a case of them not getting the chance. He got the chance but showed very little. Yes maybe the light finally came on, but I’m not sure how I feel about it coming on in year four. I also don’t feel there is much upside to him, he is who he is, and not a top 10 pick. But I’m far from a QB expert.

A 1-year deal would allow us to trade back for someone like Tyler Smith from Tulsa who might have the highest LT ceiling this year, but he needs a year or two of coaching. Play Tyler at LG for a year then move him to LT. I prefer one of the top LTs, but if we can trade back for Smith + a QB, it is an enticing idea.

We need a big run stopping LB on first and second down, so it makes a lot of sense. Good stuff assuming he is relatively cheap.

Looks like quite a few good guards and centers left, only two guards signed. Not seeing the need to panic on day one.

The biggest surprise was the comments on Strong. He’s known for making all protection calls himself and changing plays etc. due to his excellent grasp of the playbook in a NFL like offense. This essentially says the complete opposite. So a bit weird to say the least.

This could be great news for us!

Quick Willis question for this crowd. His completion % went from 61% last year to 64% this year. So that sounds good. But a lot of people are concerned about his accuracy. I have not seen him play. Does the 64% not really reflect his accuracy? Stats alone is always a bit of an incomplete story.

The good news is that if Cross is there, I would think they take him, especially with those measurements. Cross at LT and Christensen at LG sounds pretty great to me.

From CBS Sports Offensive line measurements PLAYER HEIGHT WEIGHT (LBS) HAND SIZE ARM LENGTH WINGSPAN Tyler Smith 6-4 324 10 3/4 34 83 1/8 Joshua Ezeudu 6-4 308 9 1/2 34 82 1/4 Charles Cross 6-4 3/4 307 10 3/4 34 1/2 81 Evan Neal 6-7 1/2 337 10 1/8 34 83 Ikem Ekwonu 6-4 310 10 1/4 34 84 1/4 Daniel Faalele 6-8 384 11 35 1/8 85 1/8 Kenyon Green 6-3 7/8 323 10 3/8 34 1/8 83 3/8 Tyler Linderbaum 6-2 1/8 296 10 31 1/8 75 Zion Johnson 6-3 312 10 5/8 34 Bernhard Raimann 6-6 303 10 1/4 32 7/8 Nicholas Petit-Frere 6-5 316 10 3/4 33 5/8 Darian Kinnard 6-5 322 11 1/4 35 Cole Strange 6-5 307 10 1/8 33 Max Mitchell 6-6 307 10 33 1/2 Thayer Munford 6-6 328 10 1/8 35 1/8 Jamaree Salyer 6-3 321 10 33 5/8 Sean Rhyan 6-5 321 11 1/8 32 3/8 Dylan Parham 6-3 311 10 1/4 33 1/2 Abraham Lucas 6-6 315 10 1/2 33 7/8 Luke Goedeke 6-5 312 9 3/4 32 1/4 Logan Bruss 6-5 309 10 3/4 33 1/8 Luke Fortner 6-4 307 10 33 1/8 Cade Mays 6-5 311 10 34 1/8 Rasheed Walker 6-6 313 10 5/8 33 5/8 Andrew Stueber 6-7 325 10 34 1/8 Braxton Jones 6-5 310 10 1/4 35 3/8 Zach Tom 6-4 304 10 3/8 33 1/4 Chasen Hines 6-3 327 9 7/8 33 7/8 Vederian Lowe 6-5 314 10 3/8 35 3/8 Justin Shaffer 6-4 314 9 5/8 31 7/8 Ed Ingram 6-3 307 10 33 5/8 Spencer Burford 6-4 304 9 1/2 34 3/4 Nick Zakelj 6-6 316 9 7/8 32 1/2 Kellen Diesch 6-7 301 9 1/2 32 1/4 Dohnovan West 6-3 296 9 1/2 33 Marcus McKethan 6-6 1/2 340 10 1/4 33 5/8 Marquis Hayes 6-5 318 8 7/8 34 7/8 Cordell Volson 6-6 315 10 1/2 33 7/8 Cam Jurgens 6-3 307 10 33 3/8 Ja'Tyre Carter 6-3 311 10 1/4 33 5/8 Dare Rosenthal 6-7 290 9 33 1/2 Obinna Eze 6-6 1/2 321 9 7/8 36 1/8 Zach Thomas 6-5 308 10 1/4 33 7/8 Ben Brown 6-5 312 10 1/4 34 3/8 Dawson Deaton 6-5 1/2 306 9 5/8 32 7/8 Matt Waletzko 6-8 312 10 1/4 35 1/8 Alec Lindstrom 6-3 296 9 1/4 32 5/8 Chris Paul 6-4 323 9 3/8 33 5/8 Austin Deculus 6-5 321 9 1/4 34 3/8 Myron Cunningham 6-5 320 10 3/8 34 1/2 Tyrese Robinson 6-3 317 9 3/4 33 1/8 Blaise Andries 6-6 308 9 7/8 33 7/8 Andrew Rupcich 6-6 318 9 1/2 32 7/8 Luke Tenuta 6-8 319 10 1/8 32 7/8 Luke Wattenberg 6-4 299 9 3/8 34 3/8 Offensive line winners Evan Neal, Alabama. One of the favorites to be the No. 1 pick in the draft is certainly a massive human at 6-foot-7 and 337 pounds, but by the looks of it, he has exactly zero excess weight. He's ready to be a solid Day 1 starter for whichever team selects him in the top five. Charles Cross, Mississippi State. At a shade under 6-foot-5 with nearly 35-inch arms, Cross has the prototypical measurables for an NFL tackle. He has the skill set, too, as CBS Sports ranks him as the eighth-best prospect in this class. Daniel Faalele, Minnesota. Faalele weighed in at a whopping 384 pounds, a number the combine scales haven't seen since Wisconsin's Aaron Gibson weighed in at 386 pounds in 1999. Many draft pundits are pegging him as a Day 2 selection. Offensive line losers Bernhard Raimann, Central Michigan. The reason the Austrian native lands here is because of his 32 7/8" arms, which are just below the generally acceptable 33 inches for offensive tackles in the NFL. Usually players with 33-inch arms or shorter play guard at the next level, but the tight end-turned tackle has impressed scouts throughout the draft process. CBS Sports has Raimann as the No. 6 tackle prospect and the 29th-best prospect overall.