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Yeah he is put in a bad situation, no doubt. But I feel we’ve seen years of outstanding college QBs from Ohio State amount to nothing in the NFL. Their system is just so good and they are always surrounded by elite talent. Just makes me hesitant.

Not sure on Lewis, but I agree with mid tier colleges and having to rise up as you are not surrounded by elite talent. That is a great point!

This scares me about all Ohio State QBs, that system is sooooo good in College. But does the performance of the QBs in it really translate to the NFL?

And he has thrown a lot of passes, which is a great thing for evaluating him.

Thank you for sharing! I was hoping Baker would take us out if the QB draft, but it sure doesn’t look like it. The Washington and Washington State QBs are really intriguing, will be interesting to see if they continue to climb the draft boards.

I think it might be. The reason is that we still don’t know if things will change. The 1-15 season we kind of new changes would come. Once Rhule is fired this will no longer be the worst, then we can focus on players improving etc. and look for the little stuff that would set us up for the next year.

I think the O-line has been pretty good so far. Baker seem to run away from the protection a lot and also takes very deep drops.

Ballard is interesting. Everyone raves about him, but he hasn’t been able to find a QB, so the results are not there. Complete side note, but isn’t he also the guy who forced people to sleep in the office during draft prep or something weird like that?

I’d also I really like the idea of Dorsey at HC and Fangio at DC (I think we have really good personnel for his 3-4 scheme). Would love Frank Reich as the OC, assuming he gets fired from the Colts. That would give Dorsey two very strong coordinators with HC experience. I’d probably keep our current Special Teams coach.

I think you are right. He’s at the point where everyone else knew it and said it out loud two years ago. The firing of Rhule is him admitting he was wrong and everyone else was right. And that’s why he won’t fire Rhule until we are mathematically out of the playoffs. Which should help our draft position I guess.

I was hopeful we could win despite of Rhule this season with some of the new coaches. But I underestimated his negative impact once again.

It feels like some weird dynamic between Tepper and Rhule holding the firing of Rhule up. Maybe money, maybe ego. Tepper didn’t hesitate to make quick decisions for the new training facility, Charlotte FC coaching (which actually looks like the correct move) etc. Something’s up here. I didn’t buy that he’s ok with this. He really hates loosing at anything.

He looked pretty good outside of two mistakes. Slipped on one sack if I remember. Seems like people have an agenda on Ickey to be honest. Really improved over last game. I’m feeling good about his play. He looked way ahead of the other rookie Neal, RT for the giants.

I’m a Tar Heel and I’m the same way, always root for App when we aren’t playing them. Most of my App friends are Tar Heel basketball supporters, so a lot of overlap.

Nicely done! Looks like a beautiful day, and nice size fish!

I went to Wilson Creek three weeks back and it was still too warm, had to stop fishing by 7:30am. If you go, let me know how it is. Hopefully the water temp has come down in the last few weeks.

How did Neal look last week? I know he struggled at RT during pre-season, but I did not watch the Giants game, but it sounds like you did. I always thought Cross was the most ready pass protection LT, and Ickey was the best run game LT with very high upside as a pass protector. I feel Neal is too big and not a LT. But I’m the first to admit I’m no expert evaluating O-line.

There is a lot of potential in this group, but will they live up to it and go beyond potential and upside? My very unpopular opinion is that this years QB group is over hyped. Some of them remind me of the Tua hype. And I think he was waaaay over rated coming out. Admittedly I have no insights to back this up, just a gut feel. So feel free to bash my opinion

I agree with this. It would be extremely important who they surround themselves with. The vet dream DC would be Vic Fangio. Then you can completely let go of the defense.

I was hoping for Humphrey as well, that one was a hard pill to swallow no doubt.

I think taking a LS in round six was asinine. But the ongoing complaints from many posters that we were the stupid ones not drafting him when nobody else did either until Chiefs did in the sixth round is a bit much. We’ve done plenty of stupid stuff, but that one is a stretch.

Every team and gm in the league passed on him until the sixth round. Chiefs passed on him for five rounds. A center on the second round was a no brainer, but the sixth round guard? People need to let that one go, it is 100% hindsight.

I was surprised how good Elflein (excl. snap issues, not sure who was at fault) looked. I think our o-line will get really good over the next couple of games. Encouraging.

This is one of the weirder discussions I’ve seen, and that says a lot. We were in the lead at the end of the game. Doesn’t matter what happened before that. Should we been better? Yes. Does Rhule suck? Yes. Is it our fault we are in this situation? Yes. But at this point we were in the lead, unless people want to say we weren’t in the lead (hint, we were in the lead). On the final Browns drive they got two extremely questionable calls going their way, and won the game. There is no big conspiracy theory here, the refs messed up and thereby helped the Browns win. This could not be more clear.

The second half gave me some hope. Will it carry over to the next game? I don’t know, but I’ll stay optimistic. I’m very torn, as I want Rhule and Snow out of here, but I also want some wins, it is a tough situation to be in, no doubt.