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Young was an amazing college QB. If we pick him I hope it translates as well as most people say. I would be ecstatic to be wrong if that is the case.

Nice, thank you for doing that!

I think the vast majority supports the team. The team, not a specific draft pick. You can be disappointed with the pick and still support the team. Not sure why you are working so hard at this narrative that people are not being honest, it’s a bit odd.

Absolutely. Our rookie QB will come to an unusually good situation, which drastically improves the change of success.

Pretty cool breakdown of all QBs drafted since 2008 and how they panned out: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2023-nfl-draft-regrading-every-first-round-qb-pick-over-the-last-15-years-from-trevor-lawrence-to-joe-flacco/ and yes, Cam was a home run so everyone can relax

My concern is that it looks like he really have to step in to his throws as he can’t just flick his wrist like most top QBs. But I might be wrong.

If it is Young I hope I’m completely wrong with my concerns. I’m a Panthers supporter first and foremost. But I would be a bit disappointed, no doubt. But on the other hand, what do I know about picking a QB? I also assume there are limited leaks at this point. Anyone who claims to have sources are just making it up, and essentially just sharing their best guess.

My favorite is Brugler from the Athletic. He’s really, really good.

I lot of people don’t like Kiper. I feel he is very entertaining. He is wrong all the time but he works extremely hard and has sooooo much passion for the draft. He inadvertently adds a lot of levity to this whole thing.

IQ is more important, but you need to pair that with a good enough arm to be able to challenge a defense vertically. If you have a weak arm it doesn’t matter how smart you are. All the best QBs currently have very good arms to pair with their smarts.

One big issue for me is that I have serious doubts Young can do in the NFL what he did in college. I don’t think he has the arm to be “a Mahomes”. On the other hand I think Strouds game translates really well. And I love him as an awesome pure passer.

I think it is very fair to say their schedule was not that impressive last year. It is also fair to say Alabama wasn’t as loaded on the offense as usual (although it is packed with 4 and 5 star talent).

I would chose Young as he is much better than the other two. I just think Stroud is better than him.

It basically comes down to one thing with Young. Awesome college player, but can he do in the NFL what he did in college? I don’t think so, hence he makes me nervous. You and many others think he can, so then it makes sense you prefer him. The one thing I disagree with you on is the SEC is like the NFL kind of thing (I’m taking the liberty of rephrasing it here). The NFL is completely different where everyone is bigger, stronger and faster. The SEC is not an NFL comp.

For someone that plays the victim card, you sure jump at any chance to poke and prod at people.

There is no doubt Young was asked to do more. The question is what Stroud can do vs. what he was asked to do. I think Stroud projects better to the NFL, but that’s just my opinion. Young makes me nervous but I will obviously support him 100% if he’s the choice. SEC wasn’t nearly as good as usual this year, in line with Alabama’s supporting cast, so I think it’s a wash. They are still all 4 and 5 star players.

I have to disagree. Stroud is considered the best passer by almost everyone in terms of accuracy, ball placement, effortless arm strength (vs. Young) etc. Most people think that is what Reich values the most, hence best fit.

There is just a small subset that bashes, most discussions have been great.

I think a lot of people that prefer Stroud openly say so, me included. There’s has been a massive amount of bashing of both players. To say it is one sided towards Young is naive at best. Very few people preferring Stroud feel Young is better. Settling is a narrative from some media places.

Wouldn’t touch him with a 10 foot pole

Sounds like I hit a nerve for some reason. I was just asking as it is a concern of mine and I wanted some input from people that watched a lot more games than I did. His ability to to do this is something brought up all the time, and the one thing he currently has that could make him a better prospect than Stroud, so I found it important to understand.

Question for the Young crowd. One of his main strengths is to extend plays / improvise when plays break down. The few games I’ve seen he’s broken a lot of arm tackles when extending plays, do we really think he can continue to do that in the NFL? I’m concerned that it is something he only could get away with in College (and please don’t give me the “well he played in the SEC”). But many of you have watched a lot more games. Will this really be able to carry over to the NFL? I appreciate your input.

I don’t remember him saying he didn’t have the desire to be great. But it was a long time ago, I’m sure you are correct.

I only remember him saying football doesn’t define who he is as a person. A completely different thing.

You mean this guy, I’m shocked