Martin

I think he’s completely accurate. Frank did a terrible job. Are you saying Frank did a good job at 1-11? Is that your point here? And don’t have to write a loooooong answer, yes or no will suffice.

Tepper is definitely the biggest problem, but Frank was a huge problem as well. 0 progress shown over 12 games.

So you are saying that the message from Tepper was sent out before they told the team? I don’t buy that. I think Franks agent leaked it

I think Tepper has messed up in a lot if ways, but the above is absolutely fair.

Sure, if a coach says “Frank got fired after going 1-11, so I’m not interested in this opening”, I’d be the first to say you were correct.

As I said. Frank being fired after showing ineptitude and going 1-11 will not be the reason someone won’t take the job. There are other reasons for hesitation, but Frank being fired for his performance is not one of them.

Sadly I don’t disagree.

That I agree with. But I don’t think the firing of Frank matter. In a perfect world it is a clean slate with a new GM and HC and they are not mandated to start Young unless they want to. Forcing Young as the starting QB will have an impact.

The “nobody would like to come here if Frank is fired” is bs. Everyone will see that this year was a complete disaster and think to themselves that could do much better than that.

I agree. I just didn’t agree with the “I don’t blame Frank…” statement.

I absolutely blame Frank. He has done nothing to adapt his stale system to fit the players we have. He’s done no changes or tried anything different. That is 100% his fault.

Who is Brett Toth?

Cam Ward is very intriguing at QB. Not surrounded by a lot if talent, but a very good skill set.

Agree on Horn and Ickey, nothing wrong with those picks. But I still feel strongly that we would draft way better just using Dane Brugler draft guide. It is an absolute embarrassment to have a huge full time staff this bad. It feels like everyone is completely overthinking and over analyzing the whole thing.

That’s where my head is as well. A genius on the whiteboard, recalling previous games and situations etc. But doing it in real time is different, and that was the only reason to pick him at 1, the expectation that he was a genius in the field.

I don’t see him throwing Tepper under the bus. Frank came in and implemented the only offense he’s ever used and it doesn’t fit our roster and it also stinks. After 6 weeks of this poo show it sounds like Tepper suggested doing something to help Bryce out, but they haven’t. Now Tepper has made a bunch of bad hires, but the scheme vs. personal issues are all Frank imo.

That tweet is the perfect summary and why everyone has to go. This is on Frank and Fitt. Fitt should have known this when hiring Frank (if he didn’t he should be fired for that reason alone). Frank making this decision is the reason he has to go.

This is where you completely miss the point. I said I wanted to see just something special, a single moment or throw. The you said nobody would thrive in this situation. Of course nobody would thrive in this situation. None of us mentioned thriving, we just wanted to see one play above normal everyday quarterbacking. Then you go to your regular “I’m smarter than you, so I’ll talk down to you” tone. Just get over yourself.

This will be very interesting. If you hire a new GM and HC, and if you want the best, you can’t mandate them to keep a certain player, if you do you’ve already suboptimized the process. Also, in Teppers world you succeed by early on identifying poor assets and moving on from them. Not saying it will happen, but that is the mindset.

He’s a powerful guy. Would like to see more of him impacting the passer, but he’s holding up well in the run game from what I can see.

Well if the new coach (hopefully) uses a power run game and uses a QB more under center we are in decent shape with the oline. Then you can get a QB in the second if the right one falls. Spend money on a FA WR and you are not bad tbh.

It was my fear when we took him, I was just hoping I was wrong, but sadly it doesn’t look like it.

Oh I think the offense is terrible, I still expect to see something, just something from Bryce (or his cousin Bruce), and I very rarely do.