carolinanimal

do we even use the TE in this offense?

CJ is still a has been a better overall QB than Bryce.

i really dont think the playbook is that limited. i think they are just running what bryce young is comfortable with. he doesnt like play action under center and doesnt throw to the middle of the field especially with his bad footwork. he likes gun and rpos where he can face the line and see what they are doing.

That's my point also. Stroud has been to the playoffs multiple times. If we are just gonna cherry pick games, then this exercise won't matter. The real question is if you had both of them in camp who would win out? I say Stroud by a land slide. He would do much better her and they would be worse with Bryce. Maybe not as many turnovers, but certainly less explosive

you mean wide, wide open. some of those guys were open by 6 yards.

I think he feels that the scheme is holding him back.

these are the plays that make the difference. him being late on that throw caused that because of bad footwork.

clearly??? has etienne even played enough to determine that?

honestly i am more concerned about that defense at the end. we just kept giving up chunk plays. i would be super aggressive there. a turnover wins the game. if they get a td you still have plenty of time on the clock. and you have the opportunity to tie or win . made no sense

i think he will have to throw early on those slants and digs and inbreaking passes. and put mustard on them. he cant float them like he does now.

i am going to wait until the all 22 comes out before i make judgement. sometimes on tv we think that that only routes we see are the ones he called, but it can also be that bryce just didnt throw them. Kurt warners breakdown of bryce shows that he leaves some plays on the field. he is most comfortable to the boundaries and outside the numbers not in the middle of the field.

they are rookies, calm down! they will make mistakes. overall the draft class was good

That will never not be funny

Whose gonna see over the oline to see him? . That we would have to be Shaq Seriously though, I think we need a playmaking TE. And a QB willing to throw the slant,post and dig

we really dont throw those routes very often. if you look at most of BY throws they are underneath or to the boundaries.

Which is probably why we don't run much of those. The we would have to either wait on the ball or it's overthrown because he has to throw early to get it to the spot. I think Kurt warners film breakdown really showed that there are bigger plays to be had and he doesn't take them. Either because he isn't comfortable or physically can't. Either way it is handicapping the offense

Exactly. Our QB just doesn't throw down the field consistently. If he does throw it's to the outside and the boundaries and a moon ball. He doesn't have the velocity to hit the deeper stuff on a line or the second hole on cover 2.

The problem is that his improvement is from god awful to just awful. After 3 years. I don't think his footwork is going to get better either. Kurt pointed out the hopping and his feet being to close MULTIPLE times. It's something that he does, including with the fact he doesn't like to throw over the middle of the field

qbs win without run games all the time, especially franchise #1 picks.

What your going to find is exactly what the commentators said yesterday. He isn't comfortable throwing over the middle of the field. J stew said on his podcast, you have to be able to attack the middle of the field or it's hard to win games. Think about that does to an offense that can't attack the middle of the field. It cuts off 1/3 of the routes that we and tes run. Now on top of that add bad footwork and floating passes and you get what we have

I think Horn would be great in those middle of the field routes. He is quick, but that would require your QB to throw passes in the middle of the field and actually see them. Even the commentators on the game noticed Bryce doesn't throw to the middle of the field.

What's crazy is that there are still people saying "he's making progress"" This is year 3 and his footwork is still bad!

The question is does Bryce skillset fit the NFL?

I think the main issue with us with Bryce is that we can't control or attack the middle of the field with him. He doesn't have the zip or we don't have the players to attack or threaten the middle of the field.