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Don't quote me on this but I feel like I remember reading the bills offered their 3rd and Beasley during the combine. Thats when the reports we wanted a 1st + player came from. Also worth noting the media in NY are under the impression Saquon is only garnering interest for a conditional 5th that could turn into a 4th. Pretty far fall from grace.

Depends if he's actually meeting with the Falcons tomorrow or not. You've seen Verge say today was the day. You've seen its a 2 horse race. Now we've seen 2 more teams enter into thjs at the 11th hour. I do think it's a bit absurd to not have a ticking clock here on this one but could also see not wanting to push Watson or rush him if you just sat there with him and your pitch was more or less "we will worship the ground you walk on"

Theres zero chance it costs a 2nd AND a 4th to essentially dump Darnolds contract. Osweiler had 3 years and 54 million left on his contract at a time when the salary cap was 50 million lower than it is today... and he was traded for a 2nd and 6th with a 4th coming back to Houston. Darnold has one year left at the same AAV. A 6th is probably what it would cost on the expensive side to dump that contract. Hell, we dumped Teddy with 2 years and 40 million and actually got back a 6th. This notion that its going to cost a 2nd and 4th to dump one year of Darnold is absurd. If that was the case the Panthers would just keep him as a sunk cost. They're not going to keep sinking future assets into him when he will not be a Panther regardless in 12 months.

Armstead is the big one for me. With Brown getting the tag in KC, hes pretty much the only premium option at LT. There are injury concerns for sure but when hes on that field theres few better. Fact it hurts the Saints is even better. At least one of the guards. Doesnt have to be Scherff but one starting guard with BC and Brown battling for the last spot could give us a nasty OL. Outside of that Leighton Vander Esch could be a solid pick up. Again, injury concerns, but the potential is there and hes young. Id take a flyer here if the money/years are right. After that I'd like to see Gilmore back and a guy like Braxton Berrios to bolster the return game. No clue his market or price, but an all pro returner doesn't hit the market very often. A luxury for sure but I'd be intrigued and at least kick the tires.

I think at this point I'm opening the checkbook for the OL day one of FA and either taking Willis af 6 or trading down for Sam Howell. There really isn't another option I'm comfortable with.

Id take him. Theres a lot to like... plenty that needs improvement and no guarantees hed even amount to anything.. but we also wouldn't be paying him 50mil like Rodgers, or trading 2 firsts and 2 seconds plus players like Wilson. I wouldn't trade a 1st or 2nd. But a condition future 4th is something I could get behind. Especially in combination with being able to go Oline or trade down with 6.

Agreed. Maybe his camp is betting on the cap raising to bump his AAV but I think I'd try the market personally. 2023 is shaping up to be a monster year for FA WRs, maybe that's what they're thinking.

Maybe, but the WR market last year was pretty awful and unpredictable. Plus he's coming off the pretty serious knee injury. I could see why he'd take the guaranteed 1 year but personally if I were him I'd be more concerned with who's gonna be throwing him the ball over a slightly lower annual average of a questionable market.

For what its worth this source is an unverified twitter guy with 15K followers. In fact he just recently "broke" that we had an offer in place for Stafford but "waited too long" and the Rams "swooped in" Which we've known since Schefter put it out there in February 2021. I dont doubt we'd listen to offers for anyone on the team but we sure as hell aren't eating salary for CMC to trade him. And Brian Burns is probably not the only untouchable player on the roster. This is likely a regurgitation of the quote from Fitts that we're listening to offers on CMC if someone calls but we want to keep him.

What do you mean? Of course that happens in the NFL all the time. Hell, just look at PJ Walker!! /s

We simply don't know that they did or didn't. I 100% agree they didn't show everything in camp confidential. You can seriously doubt they didn't make that offer - I can seriously doubt we wouldn't have accepted given our actions in every round that followed. Until something definitive comes out to the contrary both of those statements are purely speculative.

I mean your statement the staff had no intentions of moving the pick is verifiably false. Watch the Camp Confidential video from the draft room. They took calls. Tepper is sitting there stressing they need to listen to everything they say, that they need to let teams know that there are multiple teams calling. They are actually sitting there waiting for offers to come in. These wasn't the Gettlemen draft where the pick is in 14 seconds into the clock. They turned down a 2nd and 3rd from MN, they turned down a swap of 4th round picks. The video from inside our own draft room shows them openly lamenting they couldn't trade down and seemingly talking themselves up that "Hey, end of the day we got who we wanted" I cant tell you why the Bears wouldn't or didn't make the offer to us. I wasn't in the room for that and there has been no confirmed report that it even was offered. What I can tell you is that I doubt that a GM who was open and willing to trade multiple times in almost every round thereafter would seemingly ignore the one trade that could net them the biggest return.

Pretty sure that didn't happen. I distinctly remember them saying they were open to trading back but it would only be if a team included a future 1st and they didn't get an offer. Maybe I'm wrong and something else has come out since then but that was the chatter post draft.

My biggest concern with Willis, especially at 6, is when you watch the highlights, you watch the all 22, he does not progress through his reads. It is one read and bail if it isn't there. Now was this Liberty's scheme and he simply wasn't asked to? No idea. Is that Liberty's scheme because he is flat out not able to read a defense? No idea. What we do know, is that on film he is a one read QB. I'm looking forward to seeing how he performs in game. Should be pretty telling. He is obviously an incredible athlete and has an absolute cannon for an arm, but if he can't compliment those physical gifts with the rest of the factors it takes to play QB I would stay far away. If we go QB at 6... Im leaning Howell so far.

I'm too lazy to look it up? Do they use the NFL size ball in the senior bowl or is it still the slightly smaller college ball? I know the combine uses the Duke... just curious if the Senior Bowl does as well.

Hes also a one read and bail QB.. Hes probably the only one I dont want to touch at all and would be in total disbelief if we took him at 6 let alone the top half of the 1st. Howell is probably my current favorite but that margin is thin and he's far from a sure thing. I'm looking forward to the senior bowl, combine and pro days to see how things shake out.

Somewhere Matt Rhule is saying "SeE gUyS wE dOnT nEeD a Ol To WiN" Good for the Bengals. Good for the league. Oh and fug Jackson Mahomes too just for good measure.

Lot of talk about no quick fixes in the offense but Aaron Rodgers would literally be a quick fix. For the right price (emphasis on right) and Rhule getting the fug out of his own and putting his own ego (the least believable part of the whole thing) then it doesn't seem that out there. Theres familiarity with McAdoo who was his previous QB coach. A trio of weapons in CMC, Moore and Robby that while each had their own set backs last year are still on paper as good as any 3 skill players in the league when healthy. Then factor in he'd only be making 8 million more than Sam Darnold next year... LOL. Give em a 1st next year (no way I move 6 for a max of 3 years with Rodgers) and a couple mid rounders you could take a LT with 6 or trade down and get the Iowa C and a couple other picks. You'd now have the extra appeal of getting a LT like Armstead and be rocking and rolling next year with a nasty OL, a top 3 QB and enough weapons to prevent the box being stacked for CMC and a system that could utilize him more as a receiver to ease the wear and tear.

Thats probably our worst case scenario 1-5... In that instance I'm taking Pickett or trying to trade down with WFT and taking the Iowa Center. No way we take a corner at 6

Honestly Jimmy G is slinging the ball tonight. Couple bad drops haven't helped. That said absolutely do not want for anything more than like a conditional 4th next year. If they are dead set on a new QB id take a flyer on Trubusky or take Pickett at 6 before I'd trade anymore meaningful assets for an average vet QB

Would be the best QB we've had since Cam took that shot against the Steelers in 2018. Not saying much but thats a fact. Id be down to swap for Darnold and two 6ths with one conditional and the potential to be a 4th in 2023 with incentives hit surrounding playtime. Re-sign to a modest 2 year extension around 20 mil/per with maybe 25 guaranteed and you're a lot closer to competing than you were the day before. I would not sink any more serious capital than that, especially in what is very likely a lame duck year. Unlike Darnold and Teddy Cousins has actually performed with some level of success in this league. Hes not a top 10 guy obviously but with the market for qbs going up every year... if you aren't gonna draft one then the price for average is going to be stupid. Hell, Darnold has the 15th highest QB hit in the league next year...

Solid write up. Just remember that value charts go out the window when a QB is involved. Take a fair offer, then add next years 1s. Thats just the market rate for a QB trade these days.

Don't have to get permission to interview Pep now lol.

100% agreed. If you're going to miss out on the comp pick go get a proven LT like Terron Armstead. Don't waste it on a middling talent that isn't going to make the team better. (Like losing a 3rd from Bradberry by giving Teddy 20 mil/year when Cam was already on the roster)

Certainly plausible. But signing released olinemen gets you the Irving's and Elfliens of the world. Rolling it into 2023 would put us in the same spot next year with a looming decision on a guy like DJ Moore. If he walks are we gonna lose a comp pick by spending. Id rather they throw money at the proven commodities out there. A potential 3rd comp that we may or may not get isn't worth not fixing the line, at least not in my eyes. We'll see what the team decides to do.