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I mean entire...as in every ounce of Panther football. We're almost there. Offense is consistent trash and ST are almost non existent. The defense atleast I can be half proud of. Even still... it could definitely get worse. Example: We basically got dog walked by Tampa playing the preseason squad....insert David and JPP + the 57% of offense they played without and things get a bit darker. This week we dont even have a center. The next two games will be very interesting. And I gotta beg the differ, the poo show started at the Giants imo. The saga continues though. The toilet is only getting smaller every Sunday.

Would say RB but McCaffrey being out highlights what we lack. Then again we abandon the run too quickly. Depends on his health. It's like having Okung. When he's out there your good but can he stay out there is the question. Chubba will be better and bigger in Year 2. He has alot to work on this offseason. Esp blocking, hands, and ball security.

Pretty sure Tepper is an analytical freak. Tendencies, averages, data trends, etc.. Unless we get turn into an entire poo show the next two games, Rhule will get his third year. Just based off Tepper's previous words and why we brought him here: his prior record as a coach per year...specifically year 3 turning around an org. At minimum he'll get half a season. That and the fact that the world seems to think we have the #2 defense in the league will keep him halfway safe. That's just how I see it playing out ...the only problem is we're trending down. And the team doesn't seem to fully buy in to the "process" from my perspective anyway. Also, the double qb move has and continues to make us the laughing stock of the league and too much negative or embarrassing media could call off all bets. This is his product at the end of the day. I just dont see Tepper moving forward just yet though...but I wouldn't be shocked or opposed if the opposite happens.

Ooooo.. I get you now. I'm picturing strictly for OLB. I like Shaq and I do think he improved (esp early on) but I wouldnt be opposed to really solidifying that position. Between the draft and FA this offseason we need to find our answer for the power run game. By any means. ...aside from Coach, oline and QB that is our biggest need. And teams will continue to exploit that until we address it. We traded strength for speed. I will say with the current FO any linebacker acquisition is interesting to me. Full faith in Dan Morgan if he's included in the process. Wish we could have had Luke and Dan scouting at the same time.

I like Smith...kinda reminds me of Shaq off the blitz. With us though, I could see us picking a Josh Ross in the 4th. But if I had to pick a late round LB for the outside it would be Darrian Beavers from Cincinnati. We gotta stop that run and even in the 4th I think he'd be a Carter upgrade. Not to mention his versatility. You should check him out.

Id take him or Ingram but again I want Linderbaum first. We need that Kalil calling out protections type guy. In a trade down situation we could possibly grab one or the other. But the drop off from G and the drop of from C aren't the same. Yea I'd take Ingram later and Linderbaum in the first. That's all assuming BC works out at LT.

I mean I get the point. And obviously people are still posting so we havent gone anywhere BUT Bro... If I'm making 15 Million per year, I wouldnt care if they tossed a whole fruit salad on the field. It just is what it is.

On the bright side...We'll FINALLY properly address our offensive line this offseason!!!! It's sad that that's the only thing I have to look forward to regarding the Panthers. I swear, we are ALWAYS missing something on offense... Got QBs but no WRs..get WRs but then no OLine...next year we'll have WRs and Oline but no Qb. How we made the playoffs in 2017 is severely underrated. BC was a bright spot in yesterday's game. He did damn good as a rook in his first start. It wasnt pretty at times but Shaq is a former x2 Pro bowler/All Pro. Brady has ALOT to build on. We may have something here. Took 90% of the season to be over with to see it but atleast he didnt get the Brown treatment. Fitterer could easily leave the draft and start next season with a starting lineup consisting of: Brady- Ingram -Linderbaum- Brown-Moton Or switch out Brown with whoever is better between Brown, Pat, Erving, Omameh, Horton, Scott, FreeAgent(??)... No more Miller and Jordan. I REALLY like Linderbaum though. We could theoretically trade back into the late teens and get him, our second rounder back and another fourth...maybe more it's we end with a top 5 pick. I said all that but knowing Rhule we'll probably run to the podium for Pickett.

Hell no... we ain't losing out. Not by design anyway. Besides if you want to draft a QB...next year is the draft for that. Build up the damn Oline (and I mean build it STRONG), solidify the defense and have it ready for the Qb of the future if he's not currently on our roster. That's why if I'm Rhule, I'm playing BC and Brown for the rest of the schedule to see exactly what we have to work with moving forward.

Matt Rhule isn't going anywhere. Not this season or offseason. Revolving door @ Qb, countless injuries, probably the worse pass blocking Oline in history, a QB learning the scheme midseason, over his head OC, most penalized team in the nfl, etc etc. Even effort has been lacking (which may be his biggest hurdle). Even with this we still were in position to be somewhere near 8-4 and a lock for the playoffs. "Most" of the problems presently are offensive based, besides our run defense. He'll probably be allotted 1 or 2 more years to dump resources into the offense like he did the defense. Tepper wont fire Rhule b4 the 3 year threshold. Sorry to burst the bubble. He's is a hedge fund guy. No way in hell do you make that type of money without understanding the value of patience. That said, the biggest move we'll make is shipping our next 3-4 first rounders for somebody's QB if we dont have some sort of optimism heading into next season. Sadly

Damn near agree with your entire post. Gotta say though, as I've mentioned before, this isn't the first time we've had obvious problems at stopping the run. The answer we had for that the last time was the drafting of Luke. Shaq stepped up this year but he's no Keek, he's more of a less dynamic Davis. On defense we need an starting MLB and stronger DT's in the interior. We also need to move Chinn back to linebacker. As luck would have it this FO let go of Perryman before he even took a snap.

He's had a couple bad games but he's been pretty solid. He's still developing. Physically and within this scheme. PFF isn't the gold standard but they've has graded him poorly the last couple weeks... this is the same dude that made their All-Rookie team last year, along with the PFWA All-Rookie team. The skill is there he's just got to refine a few things. I get it though...microwave expectations. You wont find consistent instant dominance unless your just an all-world athlete...i.e Aaron Donald. Most players should b allowed 3 years to develop before passing serious judgement. Doesnt mean he shouldn't be held accountable, he still has a job to do. I'd give him the benefit of the doubt though. Mario Addison, Charles Johnson, KK Short, etc..all examples. Give him time.

Tremble needs to start and stay. Ian is big as hell but he plays like he's Russell Wilson's size. Too damn big to be getting pushed around like he does. Also he may have the weakest stiff arm I've ever seen on an NFL player.

Whoa...Woah... Plz tell me that's photoshopped tears.

And in hindsight you think that was a wise decision? And actually, we gave up a 2nd, 4th, this year's entire passing offense, and picked up his option next year. Not to mention the hospital balls that are injuring 50% of WR room. I'll half that one with Brady though. That's something.

Honestly thought Clausen was the floor.

We bet the house on Darnold...bad move. Welcome to checkmate. Almost doesn't matter. Gave up alotta draft capital. Bring a new QB in, they'll struggle behind the line. Fix the line, you'll still have Darnold. Top FA's will want the max amount to come play here. Then again.. who tf know's. Rhule looks lost and Brady looks overwhelmed. The D is ready though. Give props when I see it. Never would have thought Snow would be the most impressive one thus far.

E. Right now, Oline and Darnold. Subject to change by week** Except Oline will always be included... has been the majority of the last decade.

Lol damn

Moton hip tossed that guy...I NEED THAT GIF!!!!!!

I think it's a combination....all of which are fixable btw. Maybe not all this year but: A. Oline: Idunno exactly how good Pat Elfien is but maybe there is a correlation between the time he went down and our line just completely collapsing. I just don't remember our line being "this" bad when he was in the line up. Erving isn't special but he can hold his own at times. If both of these guys are down, our line really becomes swiss cheese. Matt Paradis is a backup at best. It's too early to tell on BC so that leaves Moton as our only dependable starter. This offseason, without a doubt focus should go here. Free Agency and a pick. Ideally, you wouldn't want all rookies starting on your line. But wherever we can get upgrades, I'm all for it. B.) Receivers: While we do have talented receivers, they play somewhat soft. Almost as if they've lost confidence. They rarely attack the football. Added to the drops they suddenly have issues with. Also, the seperation is lacking but 88 has been open alot this season. Being the 3rd option with a faulty line doesn't help Marshall's case. C.) Darnold: We can't protect him, as the line gets worse he follows. He's pressing too hard at times. He's a reflection of the shape our line is in. As his trust fades so goes his footwork. He's also eyeing his primary read a little to much and AGAIN, bad things happen when we force feed Anderson. It's gotta happen organically. D.) Brady: Some of his calls are genius, others not so much. He can draw up a play, it's when he calls that play that's the problem. It's siuational. Also, noticed the timing if off....by the time Sam finishes his drop the receivers haven't finished their routes. I think Darnold's distrust in the line is subconsciously causing his feet to move faster when the ball is snapped. That's pure speculation though. We also seem to abandon the run too early. McCaffrey: There is alot of value in having a reliable 3rd down and check down option. Its obvious to now that there is a reason he gets so many touches. Not out of option but necessity. Would explain Samuel's numbers last year when he took the role after injury. The volume is still too much though and while Hubbard is good, he's not in the same realm as CMC. I'm not even mentioning blitz pickup. I do think by next year, he'll be ready to take on some of those carries/catches. Esp if he progresses like Christian did in year two. TE: Dan Arnold was a safety blanket for our QB. We may have undervalued his importance. Hopefully Tremble gets up to speed. We we're too good too soon. Fooled the fanbase and the staff too early. False hope. Yet and still we have 10 more games to play. Just my personal opinion of our current state.

Yea that's cool in all but it's becoming comical how we keep skipping over Oline help lol. There are MANY upgrades still on the market and hidden gems on 31 other squads. For as much flack as Gettleman got/gets, he sure did nail most of his Olineman fa's and draft picks...minus Kugbilla and Matt K. Williams, Moton, Oher, Turner, Norwell. Welcome bk Snead though, they must be trying to upgrade from Kirkwood. Or Marshall is worse than originally thought. Somebody mentioned Jarius Wright. That's actually in the mold of what we need. Somebody clutch on 3rd downs ...i.e Cotch, Samuel, Wright.

Input steers direction. He said he didnt watch tape because he already watched it when he interviewed for the Jets job. At this point though, I don't even care if he did or didn't. I know he's leaving alot to be desired. Esp in redzone..as was the problem last year. And I didn't say Brady had anything to do with the defense. That was a venting statement in general. BUT this loss isn't on our defense. And If they wouldnt have allowed a score the last 2 quarters we still would have lost. But defenses do get tired. Namely after 8 three and outs. 3 points ... 3 points!!!!. Everybody on Offense should look in the mirror. After watching us the the past few seasons, we need more than a QB change. The offensive execution just isn't and wasnt there from the oline on back. It's not only the QB. Sacks, drops, constant pressure, penalties, effort... We look flat as hell out there. So YES, the offensive talent and the entire offensive staff should be held accountable. I'm willing to bet we lead the league in 3 in outs since McCaffrey went down.

Lol ....at this moment I damn sure won't disagree.

Joe Brady is who I blame.. 1.) Probably played a big role in Cam's exit. Only to get the same results it seems. 2.) Asked for Bridgewater 3.) Asked for Darnold. 4.) Instead of addressing OL in the 2nd...Banged the table for Marshall. 5.) Playcalling has regressed worst than the Shula days. We just lost to the friggin Giants...by 20+ points. A giants team with about 6 starters outs on offense.. Unacceptable.. We gotta change something...ASAP. 4 losses. 3 more and it's a wrap. It may already be a wrap but we cant go out like this. Our offense looks PITIFUL. EMBARRASSING.