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E. Right now, Oline and Darnold. Subject to change by week** Except Oline will always be included... has been the majority of the last decade.

Lol damn

Moton hip tossed that guy...I NEED THAT GIF!!!!!!

I think it's a combination....all of which are fixable btw. Maybe not all this year but: A. Oline: Idunno exactly how good Pat Elfien is but maybe there is a correlation between the time he went down and our line just completely collapsing. I just don't remember our line being "this" bad when he was in the line up. Erving isn't special but he can hold his own at times. If both of these guys are down, our line really becomes swiss cheese. Matt Paradis is a backup at best. It's too early to tell on BC so that leaves Moton as our only dependable starter. This offseason, without a doubt focus should go here. Free Agency and a pick. Ideally, you wouldn't want all rookies starting on your line. But wherever we can get upgrades, I'm all for it. B.) Receivers: While we do have talented receivers, they play somewhat soft. Almost as if they've lost confidence. They rarely attack the football. Added to the drops they suddenly have issues with. Also, the seperation is lacking but 88 has been open alot this season. Being the 3rd option with a faulty line doesn't help Marshall's case. C.) Darnold: We can't protect him, as the line gets worse he follows. He's pressing too hard at times. He's a reflection of the shape our line is in. As his trust fades so goes his footwork. He's also eyeing his primary read a little to much and AGAIN, bad things happen when we force feed Anderson. It's gotta happen organically. D.) Brady: Some of his calls are genius, others not so much. He can draw up a play, it's when he calls that play that's the problem. It's siuational. Also, noticed the timing if off....by the time Sam finishes his drop the receivers haven't finished their routes. I think Darnold's distrust in the line is subconsciously causing his feet to move faster when the ball is snapped. That's pure speculation though. We also seem to abandon the run too early. McCaffrey: There is alot of value in having a reliable 3rd down and check down option. Its obvious to now that there is a reason he gets so many touches. Not out of option but necessity. Would explain Samuel's numbers last year when he took the role after injury. The volume is still too much though and while Hubbard is good, he's not in the same realm as CMC. I'm not even mentioning blitz pickup. I do think by next year, he'll be ready to take on some of those carries/catches. Esp if he progresses like Christian did in year two. TE: Dan Arnold was a safety blanket for our QB. We may have undervalued his importance. Hopefully Tremble gets up to speed. We we're too good too soon. Fooled the fanbase and the staff too early. False hope. Yet and still we have 10 more games to play. Just my personal opinion of our current state.

Yea that's cool in all but it's becoming comical how we keep skipping over Oline help lol. There are MANY upgrades still on the market and hidden gems on 31 other squads. For as much flack as Gettleman got/gets, he sure did nail most of his Olineman fa's and draft picks...minus Kugbilla and Matt K. Williams, Moton, Oher, Turner, Norwell. Welcome bk Snead though, they must be trying to upgrade from Kirkwood. Or Marshall is worse than originally thought. Somebody mentioned Jarius Wright. That's actually in the mold of what we need. Somebody clutch on 3rd downs ...i.e Cotch, Samuel, Wright.

Input steers direction. He said he didnt watch tape because he already watched it when he interviewed for the Jets job. At this point though, I don't even care if he did or didn't. I know he's leaving alot to be desired. Esp in redzone..as was the problem last year. And I didn't say Brady had anything to do with the defense. That was a venting statement in general. BUT this loss isn't on our defense. And If they wouldnt have allowed a score the last 2 quarters we still would have lost. But defenses do get tired. Namely after 8 three and outs. 3 points ... 3 points!!!!. Everybody on Offense should look in the mirror. After watching us the the past few seasons, we need more than a QB change. The offensive execution just isn't and wasnt there from the oline on back. It's not only the QB. Sacks, drops, constant pressure, penalties, effort... We look flat as hell out there. So YES, the offensive talent and the entire offensive staff should be held accountable. I'm willing to bet we lead the league in 3 in outs since McCaffrey went down.

Lol ....at this moment I damn sure won't disagree.

Joe Brady is who I blame.. 1.) Probably played a big role in Cam's exit. Only to get the same results it seems. 2.) Asked for Bridgewater 3.) Asked for Darnold. 4.) Instead of addressing OL in the 2nd...Banged the table for Marshall. 5.) Playcalling has regressed worst than the Shula days. We just lost to the friggin Giants...by 20+ points. A giants team with about 6 starters outs on offense.. Unacceptable.. We gotta change something...ASAP. 4 losses. 3 more and it's a wrap. It may already be a wrap but we cant go out like this. Our offense looks PITIFUL. EMBARRASSING.

Said it last week, his best throws are when he's on the move. He should be used like Daniel Jones was used this game. Roll outs...

Curtis Samuel was the reason for that. When Samuel went down for a couple games..same result. OL was better though..still dont even know how that's literally possible. Bring back Okung and get Christian in the game. What will happen = We will continue to struggle until we are out of playoff contention and then he'll come back and we'll start winning. Just enough to push us out of draft range for an impact player. Watch what I say.

Man hell no... we've got worse every game since he's been gone. The whole offense changes when he's in. It's a reason he gets the majority of the touches. THIS is why.

Thought Rhule didnt believe in firing coaches.

Love the C's in this draft. Everyone is screaming tackle and I do agree to an extent but not in the draft....FA. Unless its Neal. What we have on the field are backups at best, minus Moton and maybe Brady (too early). That said, build from the inside out. Our draft is basically 1, 4, 5,5 6. If last year's draft was any indication than our first rounder will be flipped. Maybe we get two 2nds. Who know's at this point. I think we stay at the spot though if we have a chance at picking Neal or Linderbaum. Not really a fan of picking a center in the first but Linderbaum is different type of special imo. Besides that ....at guard, Kenyon Green and Ekwonu would be very good signings for us long term. 3 is the magic number. LT should be our FA splurge (1). As long as it's a proven commodity we acquire. Trade down for 2 second rounders. Get the best Center first (2) and then attack the guard position (3). Use the rest of the draft for BPA and pickup the best K in college at some point. The secondary is beyond set (still a lil skeptical of our safety play but we can manage that). WR and RB are set. TE is set if Tremble keeps up his trajectory. QB may still be a problem, but I don't think you could thoroughly evaluate Darnold without proper protection. It's just literally the definition of insanity that we've been patch-working this line nearly a decade arguably. Especially when solidifying that line improves 5 other areas: 1. The Oline itself (obviously) 2.The QB 3.The RBs: (benefits CMC but Hubbard would SHINE) 4. The Receivers 5. The playcalling You could also make an argument for 6 and 7. It's just the same as a dominant Dline making a secondary more effective. We gotta get it right. My faith in Rhule is trending sideways just based on most of his comments as of late Fitterer is exactly what we needed.

Very suprised he hasn't been converted back to linebacker. He's still impactful just not as much. He may just need more time in the role. However, I have no idea why he's a FS instead of SS. I understand he's gifted athletically but IMO he'd be best served at SS. So for next year, if I had to force Chinn at safety he'd be planted as an up in the box SS. As for Gilmore going to FS in the future...I'd rather see Donte there with Gilmore and Horn at CB 1 & 2. Bouye at nickle with Hartsfield backing him up. Bring Henderson along slow and him and Taylor would be very solid depth. Not to mention we still dont know what Thomas-Oliver's ceiling is + Pride is still developing.

That's exactly what I was trying to say

Real upgrades....you've seen what I've seen the past few weeks. The outcome plants us directly in the bottom 5 in run and pass blocking. My mind just refuses to compute that Daley and/or Miller are better options than Osemele, DeCastro, Fluker, Dahl, Easton, Sweezy or Forrest Lamp. Miller is tricky though, he can play average sometimes but also revert to garbage. And Erving is not an upgrade over Rick Wagner or Schwartz. Hell Okung can't stay healthy but I'm not so sure Erving is any different. We'll see. We could have brought in Dotson...he's old but so was Whitworth. I don't even want to mention Paradis. There is a viable option available for his position also. And an upgrade at that. Sadly we just might have the worst starting center in the league. The last two games esp. I'm just saying, what exactly is the problem with kicking the tires on a couple of these guys?. If any of those names listed above are healthy, it's a no brainer to me. Maybe I'm missing something or they see a bigger picture here. And yea we've tried trading but it's obviously not going to happen or the price is too steep. So if that is indeed the case then the front office should be actively investigating any and every possible upgrade IMO. Like I said earlier, I just don't believe we are fielding the top 5 avialable lineman in football. I could be wrong but should be right.

Another DB...really hope that's a safety. AND Where the hell are the Olineman??????? No way in hell we are fielding the best possible combination of available lineman in the world. We just aren't actively looking. Honestly that whole lineup should have been guards, centers and tackles. Besides Reggie, I liked him lol. Cmc being hurt is hurting and on everything holy God forbid Chubba had a setback. Royce Freeman has been a big disappointment thus far. + Reggie can catch.

Ironically both the guys we drafted this year are known to fight for receptions. They just don't get alot of chances. TMJ and Shi. TMJ is open alot. But either Darnold doesnt have enough time to go through his progessions or he isn't looking his way. I do know BAD things happen whenever we force feed Robby. I might be wrong but I think that's when the interceptions actually started. I wouldnt b suprised if every Darnold to Anderson complete connection that was substantial came while Sam was running for his life or when CMC was pass protecting. Coaching staff is making it a priority for Sam to get it out quick. Thus...he gets the line, snap, holds it 2 seconds then throws it to DJ. Robby is the vertical threat but what's the point if the line can't hold long enough for him to get top speed. For as garbage as Brady can be he does has glimpses of genius ...i.e that 2 point conversion. We could have had Madden calling plays but It wouldn't have mattered if our wr's cant execute. Consistency across the board is indeed a necessity. I really hope every WR we have spend the majority of this week on the Juggs Two 1k receivers but our clutches plays have been made by Ian and Zylstra. The blueprint to shut down our offense: Run stunts with the front four, implement delayed blitzes and just tell the corners to squat on everything underneath. We won't adjust. Blueprint for beating our defense: Limit pressure up the middle. Push our ends out the play..hold 'em since it won't get flagged. Run toward Burns on perceived passing downs and most importantly just do something they haven't seen on our tape this year. We won't adjust.

Well tbh, YGM is your traditional DE. Brown & Fox are very good at run stopping also. That said, we're not close to where we need to be but like I said previously, even when we had traditional players we still had a MASSIVE problem stopping the run at one point. What changed this..... Luke Kuechly. Jermaine Carter is not your ideal starting MLB. He's somewhat adequate but there's a reason we went after Perryman. Also, we just happen to be missing our team leading tackler(iirc), Shaq Thompson.

We need more inside pressure for him to be most effective. He lines up so wide that when he beats his man if the QB steps up he's out the play. No coincidence that spin move inside is so effective. I will say that last miss was an example of horrible tackling.

Season is not over!!!! And wont be for me until we are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. They didn't look defeated, they looked tired. You don't throw in the towel in 6 games into the season with a .500 record. 3-3 is vastly different from 0-6 or 1-5. What's wrong with some of you people???? Lol We DO have to improve in alot of areas but anything is possible in the NFL. You take the good with the bad and keep pushing.

This...

Ironically I just finished playing. Last game I called for 3 and a possible ...disappointment ...I left wit 2 books. I call that the Hurney.

Not quite bruh...wth... Horn ... you just just tell he'll be an impact player. Marshall... will be a big part of our offense in the future... Tremble... see above Christensen... see above. Motons first games were comparable. I'll stop there .... and by the end of year 3 ..this could very well end up being a top 1-3 draft in Panther history. That's 4 players with starter potential. Most teams are lucky to get two and a possible. And I didnt even mention Brown and Chubba.

Soooo.. as for next offseason.. Since teams aren't letting go of lineman, I'm assuming most teams are preparing to open that checkbook. Meaning we'll probably have to break the bank to get even an average body in a uniform here. Right now...as of today: Top olineman: It's going to take a fug ton of money to get me to sign in Carolina with that line beside me. Bottom tier olineman: I hope Carolina calls, I could definitely make that roster. Overpay it is. And go draft crazy. But we also have other needs. K, KR/PR, MLB, possibly Qb(jury still out).