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Which begs the question of why not take a chance on Trubisky for 3M and no draft picks as opposed to Darnold.

I’ve never said anything about knowing what anyone in the Panthers organization wants or thinks. I questioned the decision they made. And gave specific reasons for it. Yet not one person can come up with a benefit of it. Where I gave many why it’s a bad one. Are you saying that Rhule and Fitt can’t be questioned? It’s usually the only reason you slink in and out of any thread. Someone’s being mean to my team Hurney was in the NFL for most of 3 decades. Does that mean no one should have questioned him? Now, run along and complete the hit and run as usual.

They should chisel that on your headstone. It’s your standard statement when you are incapable of defending your reality.

It’s not an opinion at all to say the Panthers just committed 19M more to Darnold with little to no upside. If there was any you would have posted it. That’s a fact. All I asked for was one thing. Yet you couldn’t even do that. That depends on your definition of sad. Pointing out something factual to pop a homer balloon from someone who called you out. Then have that person not be able to defend his point at all is very sad. And typical.

That’s not a reason at all. If he’s a complete flop as he has been are you starting him next year because they gave a 2nd for him? I don’t think so. No effort involved. I can site actual numbers and facts and you make up theories like the one above. It’s your calling card of ignorance and has been for a long time.

I’ve only specifically talked about the option. You threw the bait out there. Yes or no? I answered. As I have before. You know exactly why you made that post. Problem is, you still can’t find a benefit of exercising it. But still claim that anyone who thought otherwise was wrong to even suggest it. I don’t know if he’s going to be good or not. But I sure as hell wouldn’t have committed 19M more to it without any real upside for for doing it. You keep on deflecting but it’s simple to see who knows what we are discussing. All that effort and you still got nothing to back it up. It’s just gotten sad.

That’s been obvious for years. Anyone that disagrees with you, bores you. And when you can’t respond, much like this situation, you deflect to this ole classic to take the focus off the real issue. You don’t have a clue. If it wasn’t for copy/paste you wouldn’t even exist. I’m sure this is much easier than giving any reason at all for exercising that 5th year option. If it was such an obviously good move, I would think there would be many. But it’s easier to attack me than make up stuff that doesn’t exist to support your statement.

Of course not. It took me one post to show that your statements were garbage. You still haven’t provided ANYTHING to back up your comments. Just blaming me to avoid the issue. And I can make that statement because the proof is all on here. Pick a move. Pick a decision. Let’s see how I thought it would go, and then see what happened after. Then we can do the current staff. It isn’t surprising people with knowledge tends to bore you. It’s much easier for those who are clueless to just believe what they need to believe. Just create your own reality. Well done.

You can always say so. You just can’t provide any logical reason for why it’s stupid and uninformed? I’m the one begging you to post anything that is a benefit of this. I’ve given reasons many times. If I’m so stupid and uninformed this should be easy. Yet you still can’t. Typical. Same as always. “Because someone said so” is your basis for every point. Nots facts. Not common sense. And certainly not actual football knowledge. If you had any you wouldn’t have to cling to every word you read on the internet.

So I, nor anyone, should question them. With multiple valid reasons? You acted like saying they shouldn’t have done it a some ridiculous notion. Yet you can’t/won’t give a reason. Not one benefit. You can talk around it all you want but you called people like me out. I simply responded. Fields will make about 20M total in the next four years. Darnold(like a rookie) will make that next year alone. And he might not be the starter. He’s like a rookie in that his game hasn’t gotten better since he got to the NFL.

And proud of it. I don’t have the homeristic view you possess. Want to go take for take on past moves? What makes your take so correct that no one should question it? You like Darnold. I think he’s a mistake to commit anything to. Care to tell me anything I’ve been wrong about the last couple years. I don’t have to post random internet writers to make a point. Tell me all the reasons it was a good idea to commit 20M more to a QB who has sucked. I have given plenty of reasons why not?

It still makes no sense to pick it until up. Come January this board will be having the same discussion as this year. Why did we guarantee so much money to a QB who has never even been average before. Another 20M wasted and still searching for a QB. What are they saving by exercising it. And where’s this plan to eat some this year. Which accomplished nothing and was never an option. I’ll put my track record against the Panthers staff.so far. Anytime. Or the old one. Another off season of striving for average. at best.

As a Steelers fan, when they passed on Marino was the first time I said “fudge” in front of my Dad. He agreed and let it slide. I became a Dolphins fan immediately.

I saw that as well and it can’t be correct. It’s 5.3M total. 2.6 this year and next. There is no scenario I know of where a team can put the whole amount on the. next year. It’s actually 5.3M this year until June 1st when they get that 2,6M from next year back to use now.

Don’t forget that Paradis and Reddick will cost 13.2M for their voidable years. Shaq will cost 18M(or 12 to cut). I don’t think wasting cap space is a tradition the Panthers are likely to stop anytime soon. At least from the looks of things.

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Probably because the Panthers have ONE year to bring out something he hasn’t shown before. Then, even in the best case scenario he would get expensive. The rookie QBs have have 4 cheap years for a team to build around whatever they become. Darnold is a lower risk, draft capital wise. But comes at a much less reward as well.

8M. But this team doesn’t seem to mind throwing money away when it comes to Teddy.

It was one thing to suck like Matt did. It was expected. But he flat out QUIT because he got embarrassed in a preseason game. For knee soreness, allegedly. While Daryl Williams was trying to play through a legit injury and got hurt worse. 25M for ONE bottom tier LT play. Sort of like paying a backup QB 34M for ONE subpar season.

He’s already had 3 years in the NFL. What reason would any team have to give him two years to prove himself? So if he’s his usual below average to average self, you still want to be tied to him with 19M guaranteed. Just like they are now. And how does this relate to Allen in any way? The Bills didn’t guarantee him another 19M after his rookie year. Darnold has 3 years of subpar play. Nothing similar at all. So giving him 19M, based on his body of work so far, is better than waiting and probably spending less than that for the first year of a contract if he actually becomes good? Tannehills was 22.5M his first year of new contract. Does it make fiscal sense to commit to 19M to save 3.5M, or wait and see. What happens when Darnold is the same player he has always been? Then folks will wonder why the Panthers still don’t have a decent QB going into next year. But will have 24M tied up in the position anyway. But I’m sure things will be alright. Just be positive like with Teddy.

More sense than just actually seeing if he improves any before handing him another 20M. This is the thinking that rationalized Teddy’s deal as a good one.

Why? There is no reason at all to give him 19M before he takes a snap. None. No matter when you pay it. It still won’t be there when they want to sign FAs. Or extend Moton, Moore, Burns.

In what way won’t they be paying the same amount? How does this restructure work? Is it kicking money onto this year? Because I keep hearing this but not one person has explained how it works.

I would think having another failed QB with a 19M guarantee would be much dumber. Even if he goes Tannehill his first year wouldn’t be that much. What possible reason would a team guarantee that much to a QB in hopes he becomes something he’s never been before? Especially for the 2nd year in a row.