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The 2nd was pick 36 this year. Plus two probable top 10 picks. Which can become any vet star in a trade, without the guarantees from a signing bonus. And if you had room for Burns in the budget, since he’s gone it can go towards replacing him or using at another position. 1 great or two very good vet players. 3 rookie contracts of top caliber players. Or Burns at 28-30M. What’s better for the team.

Yes

Why do you lose Mingo? You get pick 36 and still have 39. So they could have had D. Hall, Foskey, or Ojulari already. Plus 30M/year to spend. And if Stafford gets hurt and they wind up top 3-5, you will find out how valuable those future firsts are. Think Marvin Harrison Jr would help a young QB.

Try the Robbie’s extension thread. Much like Darnolds 5th year option, it was a great move until it wasn’t.

That’s a fair statement.

Why would he say yes. After that non-trade, they cost themselves 7-10M/yr on his deal. Burns and his agent know this.

Tapper was fine with trading the face of the franchise just a week earlier. He didn’t stop anything involving Burns.

Everyone knows what he wants. The problem is giving it to him when he’s not even worth Crosby money.

What’s the source? Every site has completely different numbers and criteria. PFR has 30-28. PFF has Highsmith with 55. Hear an article from December saying he was only behind Garrett. So which is valid? 6 Alex Highsmith Pittsburgh Steelers · Year 3 OVERALL SCORE: 92 While T.J. Watt’s pectoral injury had an overall negative impact for the Steelers, his absence did allow Highsmith to emerge as an elite pass rusher. Highsmith has played a career-high 86 percent of the Steelers’ defensive snaps this season, and the greater opportunity has led to a bigger impact on the field. Highsmith has racked up 49 QB this season, trailing only Myles Garrett’s 52 among players at all positions. Highsmith has twice as many sacks (10) as any other Steelers player, as he stepped into a leading role with Watt sidelined for seven games. The Steelers are 4-1 in games that both Watt and Highsmith have played in, and they will need to continue that pace if they are going to make up ground in the playoff race.

And Highsmith had more sacks, same number of tackles, two less hurries and pressures. So he was right there or above in all those areas. And was a far superior run defender and created turnovers instead of coming close. If that’s your argument for 10M more a year…try harder.

Different conversations, same exact comparisons. Burns vs other Edge players. Why are there different standards? And why should Burns get 10M/yr more? That 9 month age gap?

Yet when comparing him to Highsmith, you only wanted to talk entire careers and not just most recent season. So which is it?

Those are much better than forcing turnovers and not getting bull-dozed on run plays

Why is 7+ the benchmark for productive seasons. Wouldn’t be because Burns had a 7.5 sack season and Highsmith had a 6.5 one? Very convenient. And Highsmith is less than 9 months older. He also played less because Bud Dupree was ahead of him as a rookie. Highsmith led the nfl in forced fumbles this year. Add in better run defense by far and there is no way Burns is worth 10M/yr more than him. Or any more at all.

Alex Highsmith is better in most of those categories, much better against the run overall, and just got 17M/yr last month. So these facts show what a player with those numbers should get. Why should Burns get more?

I’m sure this will somehow be Rhule’s fault as well.

Upset? LOL. You’re the guy who complains about every other post and does the most cowardly thing a poster can do. Poo posts instead of giving reasons why you disagree. You’re a punchline who has run from Alts for being a simpleton. Your fellow fans on here laugh at you. Out of pity.

It sucks to not know enough to even respond with a rebuttal. Just poo and pics. Is that what you used to fondle Rhule last year?

Sorry hubby(or whatever alt you’re annoying people with now). I laid out this entire scenario multiple time the day the story broke about the offer. Predicted this exact scenario. Was told then that it wouldn’t be a problem. Some people actually have a clue and don’t just complain about everyone stating that a franchise that picks top 10 every year makes mistakes all the time. What’s your new alt going to be after you embarrass yourself again like last year defending Rhule?

What about the money? Could have traded a 5th and had Z. Smith for this year while Foskey,Hall or Ojulari developed. Would still have money to spend, a vet and a rookie to replace Burns, and 2 probable top 10 picks to bargain with or use.

The problem was it told Burns they viewed him as TJ Watt. Which he is not even close. His price went up about 7-8M/ year the minute they turned that deal down.

Would be lucky to get one 1st now.

Then Dont get involved in the discussion if you don’t care what he gets paid whether it hurts the team or not. This is salary cap issues. He’s not elite. And shouldn’t be paid like he is.

That depends on what “level” you put Burns. Hendrickson, Riddick, Z. Smith, Judon have been available in past years. What has he done to be considered above that group Josh Uche has one less sack in 1/3 of the snaps. And you can’t take 40% of the plays out of the equation. He’s not even average. He’s a liability and the first thing any OC will go after. If a LB couldn’t cover anyone, are you paying him elite money anyhow. And Burns will get a huge bonus and other guarantees. So you won’t get what Mack, who was already a DPOY and multiple AllPros, brought in trade. The 1M left of his salary was why the Rams offered so much. Now he’s 16M. Then they would have to eat a huge dead cap hit while trying to build around their rookie contract QB.