Toomers

For a tidy profit, it seems. Don’t be jealous that I know so much more about “your” team that I can actually make money from it. You laughed at it all last pre-season, and pretty much everything I said happened just like I said it would. Want to take a look at those threads again?

That wouldn’t bother me. It’s house money anyway. If I win, y’all can pick the charity. But with my history of predictions regarding the Panthers, I’ll probably be rolling it over to next year again.

I was told the same thing on here last year. Then Won both.

I’m putting 10 on under 7.5 for the Panthers and 10 on over 9 wins for the Steelers. Same bets as last year.

That sux. Carl is one of the “good folks” you want to see succeed. He already tore an ACL at Auburn. Worked himself into this contract. He will be back, but it being his Achilles makes it tough to hope for 100% recovery. No matter how hard he works.

I’m as frugal as it gets with cap space, but CMC and Kamara are different and are paid accordingly. None of the others have the skill set to cause matchup nightmares at any level of the secondary. Zeke is overpaid. And Barkley has a shot at 15M/yr because he has that capability. And CMCs contract on has two years at 17.7M/per(2023-24) The others are 14 and 13M. And only 7M this year due to restructure. No 20M/yr. I’d much rather pay the top player at his position than a WR2 when they’re sitting on the next Keenan Allen on a rookie deal. Of all the things the Panthers waste cap space on, a possible couple extra to CMC is so far down the list. What the team paid for safeties alone could have paid a couple years. Eric Reid(10M) and Tre Boston(9.5) for bottom of the league level production.

At most, a conditional 5th, that can become a 2023 4th if he starts 10 games. He needs to get much stronger and meaner. Still a lottery ticket and even the 5th feels like too much.

And the only RB that’s going to sign anytime soon is Barkley. He needs a great and completely healthy year to get to 15M per. And catch a lot of passes. Elliot is why the others are stuck back at 12-13M. He got his and hasn’t been the same(and neither has his OL). Kamara and CMC showed what teams will pay for their skill set. They’re worth it. The best move of last year was forcing CMC to sit instead of playing at less than 100%. Lots of carries that will be used in much more important situations. CMCs contract is the least of the Panthers worries with regards to how the cap has been handled.

If he “hits”, he’s getting a new deal anyhow. Meaning that first year probably won’t even be that much. Even Tannehill’s first year is 22.5M because TEN kept it higher than usual. So in the best case scenario of success for Darnold, what did risking 19M on a very unproven QB get the team. As opposed to Darnold being similar as he’s always been. Which makes him a backup QB with a 19M anchor attached. Added to Paradis(9.2), Reddick(4M), Boston(2.6), Erving and Elflein being 7M each to keep, or (4-5M) to cut. Shaq’s contract(18M to keep, 12.6 to cut. That’s a lot of wasted value. Eating 19M is never affordable. With no QB, 3 OL spots(if BC plays well) and other holes, they are going to need every dollar they can get.

I knew where you were going with it and agree. It’s more I still can’t believe someone in an NFL front office thought it was a good idea. At least with Teddy they were trying to get a FA to sign a contract. With Darnold, he was already here and knew he had a year to prove himself.

Well they did give him 19M, guaranteed, for….reasons?

Moore is a no brainer. Offer him the same deal as Moton. This year and next are still lower and 18M will be a bargain in the near future. Burns has another entire year before they can even discuss an extension. Have to wait until after 3rd year to talk about future. Anderson and DJax would be tough calls. Anderson is at his highest value. Only pause I would have is paying 2 WRs big money with all the OL issues and QB still being unsettled for the moment. DJax can be worth a new deal. He can also be a liability. But most folks say he played well enough last year and I didn’t see enough of y’all to say differently. If he will take something like 4/50M it would be a good deal. If he wants 15M/yr it’s a much tougher decision.

That was nice that you gave him a title like associate instead of “coffee boy”.

But…but… the Pom Pom club assured everyone that Hurney 2.0 would be different because he learned from his mistakes during his AM radio gig. While not getting a phone call from any other team. The entire time. Who could have predicted this outcome?

Its just his monthly rant. At this point it’s basically a form letter with a menstrual cycle. Like this classic… TheMostInterestingMan Posted September 8, 2020 I hope all the Teddy haters are prepared to take the L and say they were wrong when he shows he’s capable of winning big games. He’s never gonna be a Mahomes or Rodgers. But he can a really solid QB for us. This offense is built nicely to be a first down machine

Just want these poor folks to be able to “learn” from the Huddle again.

Nice cherry-picking? Why not include Arians, Reid, or any and every NFL playoff team? Or maybe just look at all the examples like this 1st Time NFL Head Coaches hired Directly from College since 2000: Matt Rhule, Carolina Panthers 5-11 Kliff Kingsbury, Arizona Cardinals 13-18-1 Bill O’Brien, Houston Texans 52-48 Chip Kelly, Philadelphia Eagles 26-21 Doug Marrone, Buffalo Bills 15-17 Greg Schiano, Tampa Bay Buccaneers 11-21 Jim Harbaugh, San Francisco 49ers 44-19-1 Bobby Petrino, Atlanta Falcons 3-10 Nick Saban, Miami Dolphins 15-17 Steve Spurrier, Washington Football Team 12-20 Butch Davis, Cleveland Browns 24-35 Working from that list, we find eight of them returned to the college sideline after a stint in the NFL. Matt Rhule just completed his first season in the NFL, Kingsbury just wrapped his second and Doug Marrone has not yet landed a new job after being let go by the Jaguars two weeks ago, though he got a second NFL head coach job after his stint with the Bills.

It’s a gamble that every bust will revive their career. Just very few ever, certainly none in the last 10 years when contracts for rookies changed. Every bust had issues and excuses. All had a lot of talent and promise. if it doesn’t work out, the Panthers have another near 20M backup. What a rookie would have cost for all 4 years. And still have no QB.

Fine. Just don’t act like the “odds” favor it. People like Hail Mary attempts.

And what the rate of “turning around” a bust? Because in that case they just wasted a 2nd and 4th, plus guaranteed an unproven QB as much as a rookie QB would have cost in 4 years. Not one of those busts lasted more than their 5 year options. If that. And it’s 0% for busts to return. Which option you betting your house on?

IT would explain the pick be included…

Rubi Posted June 19, 2019 I don’t understand the Little draft pick criticism. He was highly successful as a starting LT in the SEC. wtf else do people want around here, Jesus H

Never been to the TB and whatever keeps you happy and delusional, you should do it.

I’m sorry, we reached your football knowledge limit awhile ago. Maybe next time.

It’s pretty straightforward. Busts didn’t get 2nd contracts. Pretty simple. Wentz(who I forgot) is like Tannehill and Goff. All played well enough for the team that drafted them to invest a franchise QB deal in them. And I still didn’t include them in either list. As opposed to whatever jumble of reasoning you just put out there. My parameters are very clear. You have a better measurement. Please share with us all. Not a single data point. A large sample size.