Toomers

I know. But you forgot a major part of the equation. The money it would cost to keep Teddy. Where are those numbers figured in?

Where’s the extra 6M Teddy would have got to stay this year. Or the 5M of dead cap in 2022? Or the 3rd round comp pick he cost? Getting rid of a 1 year/31M mistake on what I was assured was a “team-friendly” contract(lol) isn’t the issue. It was doing the exact same thing again. Guaranteeing way too much money to QBs who never showed anything to deserve It. Something pointed out numerous times when all these moves happened. And the Panthers could have had 10 6th rounders and still not taken Trey Smith. They passed him up for a LS. Every other team should be embarrassed as well.

That’s been the projected number for a long time. Every cap space number is already based on the anticipation it would be that. Here’s an article showing it was decided as a placeholder on May 26th. From the same website….lol. https://www.nfl.com/_amp/nfl-nflpa-agree-to-208-2m-salary-cap-ceiling-for-2022-season

This entire article has been written by a few on here from day one of this regime. Confirmation Bias has been the key to believing any move was more than a “win-now” since the day Teddy was signed. Gilmore is one of the least of any of those issues. Negative trolling just seems to turn into fact around here awfully fast.

Really? Tell us how that worked out in your head?

I see your point but he’s never been more than a calculator for the Steelers. No decisions. No scouting. No one worried he’s gone.

Ohhh……. now I get it. Thanks.

What is his talent? What has he done to merit even a mention of a GM job? Almost every move has been a poor cap decision. His exact responsibility. Now, no one may be listening too him, but he hasn’t done anything at his current or former job to warrant this kind of attention.

Where did these sources get their info from. It’s exactly what we are talking about. Credibility. Just like sources reported that they would rotate QBs. And you swallowed that thing whole.

Who questioned the sources? I’m talking about words straight out of their mouths. “I wanna win a SB with Cam.” “Player A is important to our future”. Then cut shortly thereafter. How about recently. Some people were gullible enough to believe we would rotate QBs against WFT. Just because Rhule said they would. How did that work out for you? What else you got?

Most of this board has been blasting this exact topic for the last 2 months. So don’t act like it’s just me. And if you don’t understand why Darnolds 23.6M is just as bad(if not worse) than Kalils 25M than that is why we can’t agree. The mistake wasn’t that Darnold didn’t work out. It was that there was no legit reason to pick it up at all. Everyone misses on players. Front offices aren’t supposed to bet money with nothing to gain. You would have thought they learned that lesson with Teddy. Guess not.

If Darnold works out, he’s signing long term and his first year cap hit would probably be even lower than 19M. They are still paying it. So what was the benefit. If they were willing to give him 19M for his ego, do you really think they wouldn’t sign him long term before next year. So they save nothing under the BEST of scenarios. Anything else is just loss. I pointed this out well before they even exercised the option. In multiple threads. Want to see all the exact same arguments from before they did. And after. And during the Summer. Signing Cam had nothing to do with the ignorant decision made in May with Sam. It may be bad as well. Cam being here has to do with Sam sucking/injured. But Cam sucking is just the next bad decision they have made if so.

What are you gonna show me. Some fluff piece that said a owner asked the guy who ruined the team twice to pick his new HC by himself. We know that they would never not be truthful in everything said in press conferences and interviews. Those aren’t facts. That’s your anti-Hurney narrative wanting to blame everything on him. He did plenty of bad on his own. Maybe we can discuss that Kalil restructure again. Those were good times. Facts weren’t your friend I then either.

Anytime you want to discuss facts, I’m all for it. Name the topic. It wouldn’t be the first time you have embarrassed yourself on here.

Under what scenario was exercising the option of benefit to the Panthers. They bet 19M on a hand where they was no prize. Cam has nothing to do with this. He was paid for this year. Not given a 19M “hug” from a team that has one OL.

Wasted money and dead money are the same thing. If you pay him 19M for 3M value, then what’s the difference. And Cam is starting. Your whole scenario has Darnold as a backup. What’s that value per game? Everyone is looking for a way to spread it out but you maintain that it’s OK because it’s all in one year. For a guarantee that never had a chance of being a smart move.

Mitch Trubisky- 2.5M with better resume over 4 years. Marcus Mariota-3.5M And Kalil cost 25M(over 4 years)for one subpar season. Sam costs 23.6M for subpar half a season and a glimmer that he won’t have to play as a backup. What’s the difference? How does one hurt less?

A 19M “cuddling” hurts in any term. As I asked, where is this plenty of cap space and please explain how this is not going to effect what players you get in FA. This year and next. For an option with no upside. Even if he does great, he’s getting that money and more. Any other scenario and it’s a complete anchor. There is no scenario that made this decision less ignorant than it was when they made it. You justify a 19M loss for feelings and don’t think there will be some sarcasm. You know better than that.

Tell me about this Plenty of cap room? They have around 30M and bunch of holes to fill. Including 3-4 OL and a QB if Sams the backup. And you can get a backup as good as Sam for around 3-5M. Buy him a dog. Should they guarantee Cam 20M to make him feel better about who he is?

What? You think giving a player 19M to “feel better” is OK?

Probably your best option. Trying to use your words doesn’t ever seem to work out.

None of those 2020 decisions were Hurney. Not Teddy, not KK, not Okung, not Weatherly, not Boston, not CMC. If Rhule wanted a GM, they would have hired Andrew Berry. But he wouldn’t interview because he would have had no control. But Rhule(and Tepper) are going to let a GM whose biggest flaw is salary cap management make all the money decisions? Did anything change when Hurney left? Guaranteed way too much to a project QB, over emphasizing the DEF over competent OL. Overpaying Robbie Anderson. You also don’t pay the 9M guy to listen to the 1M guy. In any business.

What does Rhule sucking have anything to do with Hurney. Hurney didn’t hire him. Hurney hasn’t made a decision since the day Rhule was hired. Tepper hired and paid Rhule too much based off recommendations from the NFL people he knew. And no one has blasted Hurney more than I have for things he actually did. Did Hurney give Darnold the dumbest 5th year guarantee ever?

Yes. Because the Steelers have a history of firing coaches on a whim…lol. Tomlin wouldn’t work for Tepper anyhow. He’ll be the Steelers coach for at least 10 more years.