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I guess when you run out of words….
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It wasn’t the numbers on Spotrac. It was your interpretation of the amount that could be restructured on the players. And the sal cap number. You made your claim. And most of it was wrong. And not because of any site.
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One, it’s already been addressed. All teams get more. Which means everyone decent makes more. Two, where is this 28M number coming from. OTC has +17M. Sportrac +10M? And those excellent FAs and restructuring contracts built a team bad enough to get the first pick. Seems logical to keep doing that. But the bottom line is your “numbers” weren’t correct,, and the future isn’t as rosy as you claim.
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The off season hasn’t even started yet. And it’s 40M with Shaq already. You think they are cutting a few players between now and then. Hence 40-50. Elf as you suggested? What about the 16(or so) players needed to complete the roster? The salary cap going up just means good players get more. Every team gets it too. How about the 10M for draft? 5-7M for PS, IR, in season moves? And that 115M will get significantly smaller with those 35M in restructuring. Ideal is not having to restructure players just to field a poor team after already being the worst team the year before. And the plan is to spend all they can to do it again. Good Luck
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Shaq leaving is 13M. The other is already gone. Burns can’t get you 15M with extension. At best 10M. They have to put some of his signing bonus on first year. 6-7M is more realistic as a cap number for next year. Moton gets you 10M. Moore 14.5M. For two players.not living up to their contracts. at this time. With 40-50M in dead cap. How much are you putting into a team that won’t be contending? Add in the 16 or so players needed to fill out team,
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With a hostage maybe.
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Then trade him to someone else and get a pick back. These are late picks. No one cares if you get to a SB. This is their window. As far as justifying picks, that line of thinking gets Darnold 5th year options.
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Like they are acquiring elite and decent talent in a year where they are considered the favorite to win SB. For the cheapest amount possible. That’s what is valuable about them. Shaq has zero trade value after deadline. They can make a call on CMC and just pay him 12/M year. No guarantees. But teams aren’t giving up high picks for that for a RB.
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Why would next year matter? They would only have to pay their base salary for this year. About 1.5M combined. Then the Bills can walk away. Both players lose significant value after the trading deadline.
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Sounds like Scott Fitterer will continue as Panthers GM in '23
Toomers replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Just find me one NFL team that does that. Not NHL. The NFL has a floor and no one gets close to it. Teams rollover 100M and it will be gone 2 years later. The NFL is an ATM for owners. Nobody is trying to save 5M over the course of “how many” years again? Not per year. 5M total(lol) The Jags owner has as much money as Jones? What internal budget matters here? Every teams budget is the same for player salaries. Everything you post confuses me. Most of it is made up. Wrapped up in a wall of words designed to deflect away from your previous ignorance. You complain that the Panthers didn’t invest enough in this team when, in fact, they did so much they mortgaged the future. To suck. But it wasn’t enough. Imagine what that magical 5M that Tepper is building another empire on. In 2030, would have done. Keep digging…. -
Sounds like Scott Fitterer will continue as Panthers GM in '23
Toomers replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
You wanted to get rid of the cap because it’s not fair. We both have told you it all the same for everyone. You claim “internal budgets” and “Tepper gets to save 10M” which are both irrelevant and untrue. Now it’s some 5M a billionaire can collect when? Since it rollovers forever. What part of the salary cap would you like to discuss? Or the Panthers. You can talk around your incompetence all you want but everyone knows you’re in the weeds on this. Name one thing I posted that isn’t true. I’ve shown yours. -
Sounds like Scott Fitterer will continue as Panthers GM in '23
Toomers replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
I’m making rules up? That’s adorable. You basically made your own set of rules for a salary cap. Started railing it was unfair. All while not knowing.anything about rollover or how it all works. We stated it was the same for everybody. You just decided to keep digging the hole your ignorance put you in. What did they “figure” out? Everyone knows how to do what they do. Many choose not to. For this very reason. That why those watched Hendrickson, Armstead, Williams walk away in FA. And because they were desperate for a cheap OL to start, They traded their first pick away for Penning. So I’d probably go with the Panthers if I had to choose a situation to take over the Saints. And saying anyone would invest more in 3.5B football team over a soccer team not worth 1/10th of that is just common sense. -
Sounds like Scott Fitterer will continue as Panthers GM in '23
Toomers replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
It matters that you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. On any of this. Of course they can get under. Just like this year. They borrowed future money for this years mess, on every available contract, and you think they should have thrown 5M more away to maybe have 2 wins. The Saints have done it for a decade while having a HOF QB/HC. Now they can’t cut/trade anybody they want because of the dead cap. They’re stuck with a below average team they have to restructure every year just to stay the same below average team. Payton knew what was coming. But they were a SB contender most years. Not fighting for the #1 overall pick before Halloween. I’m guessing his soccer team isn’t worth close to 3.5B. -
Sounds like Scott Fitterer will continue as Panthers GM in '23
Toomers replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
How do you not understand any money not spent this year goes to next years cap. And gets used? Cmon man. That’s day one stuff. You have the richest owner in the league and he would spend double if they let him. You’re just don’t get it. You’re preaching about something you don’t understand. -
Sounds like Scott Fitterer will continue as Panthers GM in '23
Toomers replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
And they would still be 1-5 and and 5M less for next year. What’s the average guy on a 1/5M or less deal usually provide. -
Sounds like Scott Fitterer will continue as Panthers GM in '23
Toomers replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
No they rolled over 4.67M. Every team has to be ABOVE the cap. So there is always rollover. -
Sounds like Scott Fitterer will continue as Panthers GM in '23
Toomers replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
You have to have to sign players to PS. Call them up to active roster. Injured Reserve. That stuff isn’t free. Every team has to keep some available. What player was going to magically help on a 1 year/5M contract? Those are usually game changers….right? -
Sounds like Scott Fitterer will continue as Panthers GM in '23
Toomers replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
And there is the problem. You really don’t understand how this works. Tepper(or any owner) isn’t saving any money with that. It carries over every year. It gets spent eventually. They restructured every contract they could to create cap room for everyone THIS year. And now have bad team that has to do it again just to field a hopefully below average team next year. If you don’t understand this simple concept, there really no reason to continue. -
Sounds like Scott Fitterer will continue as Panthers GM in '23
Toomers replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
What internal budget? The Steelers owners are probably the poorest ones the NFL. They do alright. What teams don’t use all there resources? -
Sounds like Scott Fitterer will continue as Panthers GM in '23
Toomers replied to TheSpecialJuan's topic in Carolina Panthers
Every team has the same amount every year. There is no difference. What is the difference between the Jags or Cowboys. Please show this article that claims this. -
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Toomers replied to Mr. Scot's topic in Carolina Panthers
Evan Neal and he has been awful so far. -
Wellll…it sort of is. Like any 3rd year player, he wants a new deal after this season. Don’t mean they or he will get it, but teams usually lock up players they want asap. So the quickest way to that is to ball out now. I think either someone reminded him of this after week 1, or he got embarrassed at his game film from that week. Totally different effort put out by him since then.
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The late 1st to early 3rd is the easiest place to get a RB. I’ll take 4 years/10M or less from players like Chubb, Henry, Jacobs, Taylor, Sanders, Cook, Stevenson, Kamara, Cook, Jones or Breece Hall over one year at 12M for CMC. If you assume your front office is too ignorant to make a decent pick, that’s a completely different issue. Why not trade your picks for other teams players if yours can’t draft. And it’s the reason you don’t make trades. Does that make sense?