Toomers

Ouch. I missed on a draft pick. Sure glad i did now. I’m much better at predicting Panther failures.

Please explain what he was talking about then? And that has happened many times. As far as you’re other post about lurking. I was here before long before you. I was here for Cam. And never posted about him because people can’t control themselves. So I discuss the players and values. You just seem to be upset I exposed your all is well scenario preacher. But I’ll leave you two alone to live in Narnia.

He asked. I provided. Once again, should i just ignore directs questions and accusations now. When am I allowed to post according to you?

I know all too well there is no “progress” to make with any point with you. You quoted a single sentence and tried to get out of your ignorance by saying so didn’t understand the financial strategies of this business. How is that NOT the salary cap. You just get upset when your claims of salary cap ninjas wind up false because you don’t have a clue about the favorite part of the business. Even now with direct proof you act like you. Robbie had an out that paid him 16M for 6 games before being traded? As I said before, every player has an out after every year. Just how much dead money the team will accept.

Here ya go….that was in 3 minutes. TheCasillas Posted January 10 okay now i realize is going to be endless with you. It's apparent you don't understand the financial strategies of this business. Which is one of my favorite parts.

So I should never point out when people are just putting out false information. Especially someone who has told me numerous times that I didn’t understand the salary cap but has yet to be right even once when called on his statements. Puppies and rainbows for everyone. Is that the new “rules”

Guess I’ll go with something more representative of what happened…

I understand. It’s much easier for people to believe false information if it tells them they are right or everything will be fine. The whole country is proof of that.

I guess when you run out of words….

It wasn’t the numbers on Spotrac. It was your interpretation of the amount that could be restructured on the players. And the sal cap number. You made your claim. And most of it was wrong. And not because of any site.

One, it’s already been addressed. All teams get more. Which means everyone decent makes more. Two, where is this 28M number coming from. OTC has +17M. Sportrac +10M? And those excellent FAs and restructuring contracts built a team bad enough to get the first pick. Seems logical to keep doing that. But the bottom line is your “numbers” weren’t correct,, and the future isn’t as rosy as you claim.

The off season hasn’t even started yet. And it’s 40M with Shaq already. You think they are cutting a few players between now and then. Hence 40-50. Elf as you suggested? What about the 16(or so) players needed to complete the roster? The salary cap going up just means good players get more. Every team gets it too. How about the 10M for draft? 5-7M for PS, IR, in season moves? And that 115M will get significantly smaller with those 35M in restructuring. Ideal is not having to restructure players just to field a poor team after already being the worst team the year before. And the plan is to spend all they can to do it again. Good Luck

Shaq leaving is 13M. The other is already gone. Burns can’t get you 15M with extension. At best 10M. They have to put some of his signing bonus on first year. 6-7M is more realistic as a cap number for next year. Moton gets you 10M. Moore 14.5M. For two players.not living up to their contracts. at this time. With 40-50M in dead cap. How much are you putting into a team that won’t be contending? Add in the 16 or so players needed to fill out team,

With a hostage maybe.

Then trade him to someone else and get a pick back. These are late picks. No one cares if you get to a SB. This is their window. As far as justifying picks, that line of thinking gets Darnold 5th year options.

Like they are acquiring elite and decent talent in a year where they are considered the favorite to win SB. For the cheapest amount possible. That’s what is valuable about them. Shaq has zero trade value after deadline. They can make a call on CMC and just pay him 12/M year. No guarantees. But teams aren’t giving up high picks for that for a RB.

Why would next year matter? They would only have to pay their base salary for this year. About 1.5M combined. Then the Bills can walk away. Both players lose significant value after the trading deadline.

Just find me one NFL team that does that. Not NHL. The NFL has a floor and no one gets close to it. Teams rollover 100M and it will be gone 2 years later. The NFL is an ATM for owners. Nobody is trying to save 5M over the course of “how many” years again? Not per year. 5M total(lol) The Jags owner has as much money as Jones? What internal budget matters here? Every teams budget is the same for player salaries. Everything you post confuses me. Most of it is made up. Wrapped up in a wall of words designed to deflect away from your previous ignorance. You complain that the Panthers didn’t invest enough in this team when, in fact, they did so much they mortgaged the future. To suck. But it wasn’t enough. Imagine what that magical 5M that Tepper is building another empire on. In 2030, would have done. Keep digging….

You wanted to get rid of the cap because it’s not fair. We both have told you it all the same for everyone. You claim “internal budgets” and “Tepper gets to save 10M” which are both irrelevant and untrue. Now it’s some 5M a billionaire can collect when? Since it rollovers forever. What part of the salary cap would you like to discuss? Or the Panthers. You can talk around your incompetence all you want but everyone knows you’re in the weeds on this. Name one thing I posted that isn’t true. I’ve shown yours.

I’m making rules up? That’s adorable. You basically made your own set of rules for a salary cap. Started railing it was unfair. All while not knowing.anything about rollover or how it all works. We stated it was the same for everybody. You just decided to keep digging the hole your ignorance put you in. What did they “figure” out? Everyone knows how to do what they do. Many choose not to. For this very reason. That why those watched Hendrickson, Armstead, Williams walk away in FA. And because they were desperate for a cheap OL to start, They traded their first pick away for Penning. So I’d probably go with the Panthers if I had to choose a situation to take over the Saints. And saying anyone would invest more in 3.5B football team over a soccer team not worth 1/10th of that is just common sense.

Matt Stafford

It matters that you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. On any of this. Of course they can get under. Just like this year. They borrowed future money for this years mess, on every available contract, and you think they should have thrown 5M more away to maybe have 2 wins. The Saints have done it for a decade while having a HOF QB/HC. Now they can’t cut/trade anybody they want because of the dead cap. They’re stuck with a below average team they have to restructure every year just to stay the same below average team. Payton knew what was coming. But they were a SB contender most years. Not fighting for the #1 overall pick before Halloween. I’m guessing his soccer team isn’t worth close to 3.5B.

How do you not understand any money not spent this year goes to next years cap. And gets used? Cmon man. That’s day one stuff. You have the richest owner in the league and he would spend double if they let him. You’re just don’t get it. You’re preaching about something you don’t understand.

And they would still be 1-5 and and 5M less for next year. What’s the average guy on a 1/5M or less deal usually provide.

No they rolled over 4.67M. Every team has to be ABOVE the cap. So there is always rollover.