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As opposed to the 31 teams that could/could have traded for a cheap version of him this year. And didn’t.

So you think other teams will offer two firsts, or something similar, for Burns again. One desperate team offered future 1sts. And he’s cheap now. Where were all these other teams if he will always have high demand?

And then he holds out and forces a trade where other teams know the team has to get rid of him.

How are they going to get a nicer offer now? The Rams wanted him cheap(1M) this year. His value went down when the deadline passed.

Should I have asked permission on what to post?

And this is the perfect example of CTE flawed logic in devaluing future picks automatically. Moves like this made out of desperation almost always go poorly. The Saints has to have a cheap, quality replacement for Armstead. And a lower first round salary is all they could afford. Now they are not only out next year’s 1st(top 10?) but all those other picks. The Eagles took advantage. The Panthers chose not to.

I think it’s almost shut now. They are in trouble. I’d bet right now those will be top 15 picks easy. For a very good pass rusher who is scheme specific and a liability against the run that will cost 22-24M/yr.

So the Giants would have been better off taking pick 39 in the 2021 draft than taking a next year’s 1st which wound up being 7th overall. Those Rams picks can be used to acquire other players at any time as well. If your GM is making deals with self- preservation in mind, and not what’s the best value for the team, there is already much bigger issues.

Yep. It was more like a intense walk than jogging.

Then it goes down for everybody. And there were deals out there during the ONE year it went down. In 2015, Cam was one of the highest paid at 21/yr. Now there are how many making 40-50M/yr. The cap hasn’t doubled. But top salaries at most positions have.

2011 can’t be a cap hell year if that’s the same off-season they signed all those players. 2012 they still had plenty to give ANOTHER RB a big contract. 2013 was a collection of bottom-level FAs. 2014 was the same plus lost more players. 2015 had DLOs 10M dead cap hit. And a DE in CJ with a 20M cap hit for a part time player. That’s over 20% of their cap on those two. When the cap goes up, salaries go up. It’s not some advantage any team gets.

Seems something else happened in those years. Besides the same amount of playoff appearances in 5 years that this franchise has had in the other 18.

Just trying to keep up. One list has Beason, who was gone already. Another Hardy and Norman. One who was only here two games after 2013. The other barely played in 2013.

Josh Norman rode the bench in 2013. The only thing Beason did was leave a 13M dead cap hit after being traded to the NYG for a 7th. Stewart had 180 yds that year with a huge contract. The picks on the iDL were rookies. How did they develop…finally?

2013 had numerous restructuring just to pay who they had. All those same elite players led to 7-9, 6-10, 2-14 before that. Putting actual talent around them for the bare minimum was the start to winning.

It’s nowhere near as bad as the 2013 cap hell.

And it’s never a problem when I’m defending a Panthers player or move. Just when I disagree with people who make up their own version of the truth.

Ouch. I missed on a draft pick. Sure glad i did now. I’m much better at predicting Panther failures.

Please explain what he was talking about then? And that has happened many times. As far as you’re other post about lurking. I was here before long before you. I was here for Cam. And never posted about him because people can’t control themselves. So I discuss the players and values. You just seem to be upset I exposed your all is well scenario preacher. But I’ll leave you two alone to live in Narnia.

He asked. I provided. Once again, should i just ignore directs questions and accusations now. When am I allowed to post according to you?

I know all too well there is no “progress” to make with any point with you. You quoted a single sentence and tried to get out of your ignorance by saying so didn’t understand the financial strategies of this business. How is that NOT the salary cap. You just get upset when your claims of salary cap ninjas wind up false because you don’t have a clue about the favorite part of the business. Even now with direct proof you act like you. Robbie had an out that paid him 16M for 6 games before being traded? As I said before, every player has an out after every year. Just how much dead money the team will accept.

Here ya go….that was in 3 minutes. TheCasillas Posted January 10 okay now i realize is going to be endless with you. It's apparent you don't understand the financial strategies of this business. Which is one of my favorite parts.

So I should never point out when people are just putting out false information. Especially someone who has told me numerous times that I didn’t understand the salary cap but has yet to be right even once when called on his statements. Puppies and rainbows for everyone. Is that the new “rules”

Guess I’ll go with something more representative of what happened…

I understand. It’s much easier for people to believe false information if it tells them they are right or everything will be fine. The whole country is proof of that.