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I would take a 3rd round comp pick before paying Burns that much. Reddick and Luvu armed/would be good deals. Both are much better players than I ever thought they were. And you could have both, plus 5M more for what Burns would make.

You dismissed a “metric” with no personal bias. Wanted to show posts from people on here to prove your point. Only to offer a vague list from one person taken before the year. Wonder who was on that? The only one displeased is you and your “we should overpay him because….reasons” theory about a player on your favorite team.

I’ve never said it was. You said there was no metric but personal bias. I showed one. From a “metric” that doesn’t have a bias. So you can save your rant. So I should look for a list from before the season, from one man’s opinion? Over a site that actually at least grades all plays. Is that top 25 list a metric? Can’t really tell. I didn’t say you can’t see. It’s just you don’t understand what you’re seeing.

If you are making an argument that he’s worth top DE money, you better believe his defense on 40% of snaps matters. That’s why players who are similar(like in your words Reddick) get around 15M/year. Teams don’t hand out 25-30M for one dimensional DEs.

It doesn’t go up enough to justify overpaying a player 10M+. Max Crosby just got 24M and his is much better than Burns. Reddick got 15M/yr this offseason. Smith 14M, Nwosu 9.5M/yr. Watt is highest at 28/yr. The Steelers have two Edge’s better than Burns. What part of replacing him with a similar player who won’t be as expensive but just as productive is so hard to understand. Then using the extra money elsewhere. Then still have 3 picks that could be used in any scenario. Especially finding a QB. Saying Burns is a 16-18M/yr player is far from calling him average or mediocre. He’s just not elite. And shouldn’t be paid as such. But he’s a Panther and will be.

Nope. Stating that there is no metric(whatever that means) other than “personal bias” where Brown is better than Burns is the issue. Is PFF biased? Is it a metric? What’s your criteria? Let me guess…it’s fluid.

Who cares where he was drafted. That means nothing now. And Garret, who is a “generational type” gets 25M/yr.How is it smart to even pay Burns lose to that. The picks are pure bonus after Burns is replaced with 15-17M DE, and a 10M more investment at DT or other DE. And 3 picks that would be top 40 and possibly top 10 with the direction the Rams are going. 5 players. 2 proven FAs and 3 picks or Pay a guy who is “Reddick” like he’s Garrett. Which he “isn’t according to you”. On a team with numerous holes to fill. Use the whole picture and not just the picks. You can buy a jersey of the new players too.

And also discarded when it doesn’t support a ridiculous “personal bias” narrative from someone who hasn’t got the first clue. And proves it repeatedly.

You’ve answered yourself in this thread already. “He’s no Myles Garrett” (which is exactly the whole point) AND he’s “is what Reddick is”(once Again…dead on) are your statements. Which is why it doesn’t make sense to pay a player 10M more than he’s worth a year. Reddick, Smith, Nwosu, Hendrickson, Judon and more. All for around 15M/year. And Burns is basically replaced. Now on top of 10M to fix another position. AND Three premium picks. That could be traded themselves for an QB or proven vet. All to overpay a top pass rusher.

PFF Grades Brown-80.6 Burns- 63.8 Does Brown have family working at PFF?

How is any of his salary guaranteed?

Yep. Along with your telling people that you were a better fan and more knowledgeable while being completely wrong. We can still go to the tape if you like. It was a made up lie and you got called on it. Sorry about your damn luck. And any hostility comes from your history. And your attempts to hide from it like a little girl.

They did run many 2 TE formations. Just rarely on Burns side. So we can BOTH be right. The only fiction here is your made up story about Burns facing TEs all day long. And someone with your history of trashing anyone outside the “echo chamber of optimism” should not act like pointing out you’re wrong…again…isn’t anything more than payback. And then the usual retreat. What’s your new alt going to be?

It’s important enough for you to change your alt after being wrong about pretty much everything you have ever said. Should we take a look at some of your past rants which are very similar to the BS you’re slinging now.

We can go through play by play if you want to prove your theory. I promise you will not like the results. And Hey @iamhubby1. What is your next alt going to be after you say so many ignorant things this time it’s the only way to escape your humiliation?

This is not true at all. He spent about 70% of the game matched up with Charles Cross. And it didn’t go well for Burns on those plays.

These rankings seem to disagree. https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-edge-defender-rankings-week-13-micah-parsons-myles-garrett-2022 10. BRIAN BURNS, CAROLINA PANTHERS Burns has been an ironman for the Panthers this year, leading all edge defenders in snaps (718). Despite that heavy workload, he's been incredibly productive. Burns ranks fourth in the NFL in pressures (53) while also placing second in hurries (34). He’s already recorded double-digit sacks for the first time in his career (10) and is still only 24 years. His lack of ability to stop the run (49.5 PFF run-defense grade) is the only thing keeping him from being higher on this list.

Then you roll it over. It’s gone for a backup QB,at best. There’s no “it’s not that bad” about handing out 19M that you get almost nothing for. And they picked up the option before Rhule’s 2nd season. His job wasn’t at risk then at all.

Makes you wonder if the Eagles or Cowboys won’t try to keep him away from SF. He’s looked horrible but it wouldn’t be too surprising for Shanahan to breathe life into a struggling QB.

It was all Rhule. From day one. That’s the only reason Hurney was there was for appearances. Rhule had total control. And now I read he claims he didn’t? What a d-bag. They could have hired Andrew Berry but he wouldn’t interview because he knew Rhule had all the power.which is why no one else interviewed either. Wonder why? I read some of his comments from last week and they are fictional at best.

They are same thing. I actually think they will be worse. It will take a lot of things going right to be anything more than that.

We have given you many reasons why they could be average or lower. Your rational logic pins it’s hopes on McVay magic. If he’s even there.

Well. A team currently 3-5 with their QB in the concussion protocol with an already anemic offense. Aging players, little to no cap and no 1st next year. I can make the case they will be that low much easier than them becoming a playoff team again.

So when the offer is down to a 1st(like Moore) this Spring, how is that good? You kept him for half a meaningless season at the cost of a 1st and 2nd rounder. And the cheap is referring to his current salary remaining of 1M for THIS year. That was what the Rams wanted.