Toomers

I’m your huckleberry. And I never said he would only bring a 3rd. But it sure wasn’t out of hand to suggest. That there was a chance at a 1st and more was what was absurd and what I said would never happen. I’ve called this from day one after turning down the Rams deal. So please call me out when no one has called this whole ordeal as accurate as I have. 2 1sts, a 2nd(36) and the 16M they gave him last year when he played to not get hurt. Plus that 24M too. Not bad either.

Jimmy G got benched halfway thru last season. He will be released this week. Not in Raiders plans.

Please don’t stop. Seeing you try to explain and understand the salary cap is hilarious.

Why not any of those players? And more. Josh Allen balled out during his 5th year option, and hasn’t turned down 27M/yr. Burns played to stay healthy. Huff, Hunter, Grenard, etc…. Many can duplicate Burns production at a fraction of the price. If he’s worth what he wants, why don’t the Panthers give it to him? No picks involved there. But another team should pay him and the Panthers?

Sweat was 24M, and still had half a year at only 5M. In the same situation(but making less) as Burns. And he went out and led two different teams in sacks while being one of the best run defenders at edge in the NFL for years. Burns disappeared while trying not to get hurt. So who would give him more AND picks?

No one is doing anything unless he accepts a contract proposal from another team. No one is trading for his rights. He won’t sign the tag if he doesn’t get what he wants. His floor, is showing up right before the season, playing to stay healthy, and collecting his 24M for a 4 win team. He can wait on anything else and hold for an unrealistic price. The team that knows him best, and put his “price” at what he thinks it is, won’t pay him what he wants. But you expect another team to give him 30M/yr with 70M guaranteed, AND give up a 1st and maybe more? I’d like to see what team will accept that.

If they tell him to come without his entourage and entitled attitude, I’m for it. Easier to suggest than it is to make happen. Whatever keeps them from just handing the job to Pickett to see if he can become average. That’s why I was on board with Fields. Wilson can play for league minimum. So there’s not much risk. He starts being Russ and just cut his ass.

Not really? I know they should. Best option they will have for next two years.

It’s overpaying(and renting) a player that’s not in the teams future plans at his current asking price. Something you have argued against doing for ages. And you’re using the same sad excuses people used on you(and me) They blow it anyhow(or can’t draft) so why try. It’s the owners money, why does it matter. And the Hail Mary one of the 89% rule. When is the last time that had any effect on any team? Multiple teams have had over 100M in cap space to start a year and I fail to remember any team getting near that. And I’ve seen Sweat as a complete DE. Not a one dimensional specialist who’s a liability on 40+% of the snaps. And Burns is still “potential” that needs some sort of perfect situation to play capable of what he thinks he’s worth.

“Dave’s money”??? So now it is somehow just the owners money and not the cap space that it is in reality. Something you have harped on, like me, forever. Why couldn’t that go to a FA in 2025 when the team starts to figure out what they have. And if age is all you got, I rest my case. Burns isn’t getting better. More the opposite.

Since 2020, Sweat has the highest run defense grade on PFF. And led two teams in sacks. Burns has one of the lowest, and wasn’t better than Sweat at anything last year. The Huddle doesn’t recognize run defense, but NFL people do. 21M to see if a 3rd can become a 2nd. Maybe. And that’s only if a team meets his “asking” price. They might waste the money. But that was the same reasoning people were using to not trade him to the Rams. “We can’t draft anyhow” was the common theme.

But with any tag comes the risk that he just plays on the tag for 21M. Afraid to get hurt again. On a rebuilding team that not winning 5 games with or without him. Then they try again next year at around 26M. Think he will have more value then. And after July 15 he can’t play for anyone else. Burns has all the leverage. Panthers sit in limbo while teams fail to match his unreasonable asking price. Sweat is one of the best run defenders in the NFL. Burns is well….not. Sweat led two different bad teams in sacks last year. Without the 3-4 All Pros that Burns requires to be effective. Or the scheme. Or the offense. Or his fears of injury. Which of the Edge guys making 20M+ suck against the run? What does getting him on a long term contract do? Send away draft picks to overpay a player who hasn’t come close to earning what he wants. Who are these teams? Where are these offers. Why isn’t he tagged right now. If it’s such an easy decision why not place it on him. Can’t do anything until that’s done. Every team runs the ball on you because they can block Burns with a mediocre TE. This we aren’t ahead Colton’s just the next excuse for”this is the year” he puts it all together. We can go back and read my statements from soon after they turned down the trade. I’ve been dead on the whole time. But any random scenario you can invent is some sort of fact.

Because my reasoning is no tag. Just let go and take 3rd comp pick. Or you will be stuck with a malcontent at 21M in a year that it won’t matter. If he shows up and doesn’t hold out. Players making as much as Burns wants or deserves don’t need others to enhance their game. If that is the case, they aren’t worth the money. Burns had one more sack with Reddick as he had this year. A player who regularly outperforms him for 15M/yr. You don’t give Robins 20-30M. Now, your turn to explain why a team would give up more than the 2nd the Bears did for Sweat? A better player who agreed to a reasonable contract. But you’re getting 2 1sts for a guy who was playing afraid to get hurt?

Nobody is offering close to what he wants. Especially with first round pick(s) attached. The Panthers won’t give him what he wants, and they made him think he’s worth that much, and don’t have to surrender picks. 21M for another half assed year. While he cripples any ability to do anything else because he’s tying up your cap space. In a year that should be focused on rebuilding the entire team. He might report opening weekend. Or not.

Heaven forbid that a rebuilding(should be tanking) team have some actual cap space to rollover into a year like 2025 when they have had a year to build some value and a solid core. What do you expect happen next year. Restructure and overpay to win 5 games? If that? Then what? Same thing again in 2025? Keep that cycle of success rolling like it has been. Paying players too much just because they are on your team is exactly how this organization has hamstrung itself for close to 15 years now.