mickeye76

Zion is the target if able to trade down. Take a BPA at say 14 then Zion at 40 something.

What's he gonna learn from Cam? Sorry but Cam also had issues with progression reads.

Choice of runts of the litter. Next year is gonna be a game changing crop. Being inpatient and rushing the process will hurt us.

Have y'all did ANY research on the upcoming crop of QBs? Legit they like five guys that are seen as 1st rounders (not weak class inflated stock) and this is a strong class of oline. We have a legit chance of taking Neal for instance. If Houston and Detroit decide to go pass rusher (very talented top heavy class) then both the NY teams take Ikem and Cross for instance. Sitting at six and taking Neal, Cross or Ikem is the a nice problem to have. Only way we could f this up is reaching for a QB.

Glass and Garbers just played in a collegiate all star showcase game. Hence the boost in rating and attention. It's very early. My QB board is different. Also there are two distinct styles of QB this year. So it depends on offense we want to run. Semi-traditional pocket passer Pickett, Strong and Ridder. In this group Strong is the swing for the fences gamble with the most upside. Ridder is high floor low ceiling. Pickett is this year's most likely to pushed to the moon by Mel Kiper potential bust. I said it. New school RPO athlete at QB Willis, Glass, Corral and Howell. Willis and Glass are athletes playing QB. Both could hit a wall in the NFL because of an uptick in competition. Corral and Howell have potential and are actually two of my favorites this year. 1. Corral 2. Pickett 3. Strong 4. Howell 5. Willis 6. Zappe 7. Ridder

Or not.

We need a solid backup if we go QB early NEXT year. Zappe also could surprise folks. I see more of a Romo or Brees in him. But I can see the Chase Daniels. I don't see Mac Jones though.

Watch the highlights. Level of competition is questionable but he gets the ball out so quick. I see Brees in him.

BIGGER HANDS. Lol. People trying so hard to rationalize this potential pick. Pickett is not Burrow. Pickett is Colt McCoy but with less college success. I saw a mock with us taking Pickett and the commentary went like this "Pickett is not worth the 6th pick and the Panthers would like to trade down but whatever" Pick after is Linderbaum to Giants. So entire top ten has comments how ie Hamilton is a unicorn, Tyler would solidify interior, Ikem aggressive and athletic skills would bolster line. Etc etc. So I am not excited bout "baby hands" Kenny. Nobody is.

Zappe. Legit should have won the Heisman. Record smashing season. His release is the quickest of any of the prospects. Dude is gonna light up the Senior Bowl.

Zappe. That's my pick. Sam Howell is an exciting and fun college QB. His style of play will not work as well in the NFL.

It's so bad I think there's like five rookies in this class that would be an improvement. Cross, Neal, Ikem, Linderbaum and Green. I'm intrigued by some second tier guys too.

If Neal, Cross and Ikem are off the board. That would mean one of the elite defense guys is still on the board. Top safety. Top corner. This class of defensive ends is fire. If we are trading down its likely the other team is trading up for a Defensive end or corner not a QB. I'd take Linderbaum if no one wants to trade up.

Excellent article. It reminded me of the Bill Parcells criteria for a QB. I'm not sure any of the this year's group have that IT factor.

Our situation has not been ideal. Coaching is easy when ya winning. Everybody feels good and playing well. Handling adversity builds strength. Take for instance Joe "wonder bread" Brady. Captain of top record setting offense at LSU and when hired thought to give us similar results in the NFL. I don't think it was a failure of coaching more Sam was not Burrow. Then instead of being daring and trusting your offense Joe had to play it safe and figuratively play with one hand tied behind his back. The oline sux. Therefore quick passes to alleviate pressure instead of deep passes that break the defense. Same with Rhule. I feel like he has been bailing water out of sinking ship and coaching scared instead of being aggressive. Have you never been in a situation where everything you do is not working and then you change your plan to not fail. Guess what you playing scared and the fear of failure is handicapping any chance of success.

I get it. You right. Trust me I've been banging the drum for oline help for years. Paradis was not the best center but he had some decent games despite injuries and age. So that position was given a bandaid. Left tackle is what hurt the most. Honestly after the debacle that was our Superbowl appearance and how Von Miller singlehandedly destroyed the left side we should have already fixed the problem. The problems with QB and Oline were ignored. Cam was obviously not the same yet we kept trotting him out there. CMC was run into the ground but he was our only chance to be competitive. Olsen got hurt and yet we put him out there to reinjure himself. This franchise has been mismanaged for awhile it's just all coming to a head right now. Y'all act like this team was built to win when the current leadership took over. It was a sinking ship.

Anywhere in my posts did I say I enjoyed this f#cked up season? I'm not gonna defend Rhule too much but I actually liked the philosophy of an all defense draft. I liked taking BPA despite inflated positional values. Horn, Brown, and Gross Matos were solid picks. The patchwork oline( that has been neglected for way too long) and the gamble on Sam and Cam doomed us. I am in a minority that I can almost see the process. We build the oline up, get lucky at QB, plug some holes with FA and with the defense improving we can win consistently. Point blank I have hope. Y'all stop pooing on my hope that this can turn around. Hell compare us the Lions and Browns. They kept supporting despite like a murderers row of failed QB's and idiot GM's.

Whatever man. Considering for every thirty negative whiny posts there is one positive realistic one I'd say it's the negative Nancy's that need a pacifier to shut up. Don't like the HC, wah don't like the owner waah. Go away. I hear the Bengals, Rams and Bears are accepting bandwagon fans.

Way to be positive my dude. This exactly the kind of posts I'm tired of seeing. I watched the same games you did. It was bad, but I prefer to look at the positives. What were they? Defense had some flashes. Luvu, Robinson, Shaq, Gross matos, Brown all had moments. On offense Chubba improved, DJ was solid again and it was nice seeing Cam back. We were held back by subpar QB and oline play. I get that was the front office and coaching that screwed the pooch on that but y'all act like qb's are easy to find. We gambled on Sam it did not work our, we will gamble again on a QB it hopefully works out. 4 more wins and we in different situation right now.

That's kinda the vibe of the huddle recently stephen Ass Smith style hot takes. Just reactionary poo throwing. I give a HC three years before I throw in the towel. I was on here defending Rivera in 2014 so...

It's me mick. Don't know Dave. I'm just getting bored of all the whining. Losing sucks and the rebuild seems a bit retarded ( not the mean word ) just kinda slow but... A quick turnaround is possible with the right QB ( not this year) and some luck in the draft.

OMG y'all are some crybabies. I look at Indy and I see a legit Oline and old school running game. I'm not opposed to that. I'll do more research on this guy but at a glance he's preferable to Jay "QB killer" Gruden and McAdont.

Crazy thought. What about moving Shaq to middle? Resign Luvu and put him at strong. We would still need a linebacker but we could ease him in at will. If we can trade down and come away with extra picks I'm onboard for a more highly regarded prospect. Just a thought.

Why not both. Why can't we build the oline and take a QB? We need to be careful with our level of desperation for a QB. Philly is getting manhandled right now. It does not look like the Jalen Hurts experiment has worked. Then we have the Justin Fields gamble two future first round picks and an uneven season by the rookie is looking like snake eyes. Or the prior mistake the same bears made with Tribisky. How bout Daniel Jones who is on his way out of new York? As Trey Lance and Jordan Love warm benches they are learning but NO return on investment yet. TLDR the try and try again desperation move for QB can handicap a team. The oline is terrible. A second tier QB is headed for disaster if the oline is not addressed.