mickeye76

Yeah if the Texans release him. Not if they want to leverage him into a rebuild on our dime.

Next year's class in nioce. Possible 4 1st round qb's good.

Ikem fits that plan too. This is a stacked defensive line class. The Jags could wait till there 2nd pick and still likely get a starter at DE.

All the shoes are falling. Rodgers resigns, Denver trades for Wilson, NOW the Commanders trade for wants. Where does that leave us? If we are smart we hold tight and play the long game. The coach and owner have yet to show me too much smart.

So 25 years seems like hyperbole. I mean I watched last season too and yea it felt like slow death. We swung on Pickles, Sam, Cam and Will Grier. TB was and always should have been seen as a bridge QB. To me Watson and the sacrifices made to attain him would give us short term success with a ceiling to how far we could actually go. Without young players coming in we could end up just like the Texans reliant on veteran players instead of building future stars. It all reeks of impatience. Our oline needs building, our linebacker Corp needs new recruits and yea the QB room needs flushing. We can revamp that QB room in two years. Draft a developmental backup this year, get a veteran in FA and draft the future next year. We have seen the Watson story so far and I would stop reading or change the channel. Give me a kid in next year's draft and let's enjoy his story.

Money talks and bullshit walks. The legal system is different for the mega rich.

Nope. Not what I'm saying. I would like a rookie under a cheap contract become a superstar QB. I would like to keep valuable assets like high draft picks and cap room. Then there is the sticky situation of bad press. Didn't our former owner get ran out for some stuff like Watson is accused of. To turn around and bring Watson in makes us look like hypocrites.

1 win in the playoffs. Since the golden days the Texans and Watson have been Meh. They got old and Watson got whiny and horny.

What did Watson ever do in Houston? Pad stats and lose.

I was thinking CMC could end up in Denver, then this trade happened. The war chest will be empty after the Wilson trade. No picks left for CMC. Also they have two really good running backs already.

Zion could go 1st round. He is a top guard and has scheme and position versatility. Green is up there too but Green is less versatile. That said a situation that could be interesting to us would be a big trade down. Trade our 6 for the Lions 32,34 and 66. This trade is further down than I would like but if the target is a guard, linebacker, safety or QB this could work out. The Lions take either Kayvon or Aiden at 2 and then either Sauce or top WR at 6. Yes, we are dropping down alot but this could be right where a Zion, Green, Kinnard or Lucas land. Other targets at positions of need in this area would be Daxton Hill or a top defensive lineman who fell between the cracks after the top 8 to 10 go earlier. That 66 pick is also valuable with linebackers, interior offensive lineman and the second tier of wide receivers likely available there. In what would likely be the most unsexy draft ever. 32. Zion to play LG. 34. Kinnard to play RG. 66. Chad Muma to play MLB.

Stop being reasonable and stuff. This is the beginning of the end. We are all doomed. Rhule is the worst etc etc. Lol. People act like the Weinke and Clausen never happened. We been bad before.

Already picked my team in USFL. Birmingham Stallions baby.

Zion is a target. Down to trade way further down than people expect and take Green or Zion. Linderbaum is also a guy we should be eying. Trade down between 11 to 17 Linderbaum is the guy. Trade down to 18 to 27 Green or Zion. If we go past that I can be onboard for a QB.

Except for having a rapist as the HOF QB. Oh and how tomlin will interfere with the play on the field by encroaching onto the field. Or how Juju does tic toc b.s. dancing on opposing teams logos or how they succeeded in bringing us all the complete circus that is the antonio browns and leveon bells of the NFL. Whatever man. Just jump ship and be a Steelers fan.

Nice hire. Flores did not deserve to lose that gig. I will say the Luvu resign and some of the coach hires for the panthers( you know the team we pull for) are solid moves too. Go be a Steelers fan. Half of North Carolina already been on that bandwagon.

If this was madden. Yeah. But this is reality. Moore with a competent QB would be awesome. He's been pretty consistent with teddy "2gloves", Sam "silver platter" and Cam.

I'm with ya. I think he is a top 5 player in this draft. I really like Brisker too though.

Point is I like next year's class alot more.

That's kinda my point. I don't see any QB this year that can compete with Patrick, Joe, Lamar, Josh, or even the runts of the litter like Mac or Kyler.

Burrow and Chase lit it up. The combo has continued their winning ways but came up short in SB. I don't see a scenario where Pickett and Moore can recreate that kind of explosiveness. Burrow got calmed down a bit by a dline stacked with talent. His offensive line was depleted by injuries when it mattered most. We have all seen this before. Cam in his prime with a questionable oline = no ring. Mahommes minus his usual tackle = no ring. Burrow without two lineman = 7 sacks and NO ring. So what ya think gonna happen if we patch together another oline from free agency and put a lesser talent behind it. With any overdrafting of the current batch of QB we lucky to hit 500.

I disagree. Lawrence is the future golden boy of the NFL. Christened that early, but I am not convinced. Pederson is a really good coach but he has his warts or he would still be in Philly. As far as oline Cam and Norwell are likely out the door. Their interior is bout where we at, and the right tackle spot we have the edge. So... I get it lets crap on Rhule all day every day but I hope Campen can fix this oline in a hurry. If we overpay for a LT Armstead like we did with Matt Kalil or pass on OL in the first round we fudged it. Otherwise within two years yes we will likely have a better oline, QB and coach than JAX.

OK Ikem. This guy is gonna be a consummate pro. At LT or LG he gonna elevate those around him. Cross. Years from now he is a David Bahkrati forgive the spelling type player. Pass pro expert. Neal. Is a monster. A offensive lineman produced in a lab. Not a perfect creation though could be better suited on right side despite all his natural talents. Hamilton. Chinn and Hamilton is game changing. It's a left field choice but if those two mesh and are healthy opposing offenses got big problems. Linderbaum. Center is super under rated. Solid foundation piece. Give BC a year at LT, Moton is the rock, and have a full on competition with hungry rookies with improved coaching and oline is a strength. I guess we need to talk QB. Begrudgingly cause a Stingley, Gardner, Jermaine Johnson, Ojabo, or Dean are all uber talented players that could develop into pro bowl contributors. But give me Corral. Not sold on Pickett. I trust the SEC guy over the one year wonder in the ACC.

James Daniels is the guy I would pursue. Cappa will not be leaving TB. Jensen is a ginger goof. Fisher, Armstead and Scherrf are expensive like a Faberge´ egg and as fragile. Laken and Orlando are gonna be out of out price range. The trick is to draft and develop our own offensive lineman. All of the players on this list started out as rookies. Some had high draft status, but some were found in mid rounds or even undrafted ( Norwell) We actually can start by developing BC. Pick up a high quality free agent LG like James Daniels to pair beside him and in the draft look for other olineman to develop. This is a strong class. No more retread lineman or QB's.