mickeye76

We have Sanders for a couple years and I am thinking he will be productive. In the next couple drafts we should target his eventual heir. The league is bipolar. Couple years ago FA running backs were getting big contracts and nobody was drafting RB's in the first. Now you had Gibbs and Robinson going high but Barkley/ Jacobs can't get extensions and Cook is sitting on his couch right now. We got the guy we wanted and no I don't think it was a gross overpay.

Eagles have a decent stable there but Sanders is better all around than any of them. Penny and Swift are the best of the bunch. Sermon could be good but he is a rookie right? So his fiscal hit is nothing.

This was a Jordan pick if I've ever seen one. You think the coaches have any say. If so it's very little.

That's kinda my point all along. We needed glue/ role players and let one go. I also don't think he is destined for stardom or anything but would have enjoyed seeing him become that type of player for my Hornets not a rival.

He also looked pretty good in the summer league game. Stroking the three ball like everyone said Miller could.

I get that but surrounded by higher thought of guys at UNC with more raw talent he was the engine. It's done with now. He is a Hawk.

You talking bout Miller? All those fouls and poor conditioning. Sounds like we need to red shirt Miller but we can't and wont we went all in because of fit in starting lineup. We could have brought Scoot along slowly by having him run the second team at PG but nope we all in on Melo, Bridges and Miller being the stars. We see how that works out.

I'm worried enough for the both of us. I do think Miller can develop but it really depends on him. The coaching staff is not going to make it happen. He will get the minutes and play with our starters and honestly they are gonna have to carry him for awhile.

So far not impressed. Watched a bit of the Lakers game today and we look lethargic. Lakers got some easy transition baskets and dunks. We seemed to have no teamwork or grit. That's bad. Can't be a finesse team that is sloppy. Or a bad shooting team that can't grind. Right now I see a sloppy, bad shooting team that doesn't hustle for rebounds or play defense very well. I know it's summer league. I see the logo on the court but we are lacking point blank. This summer league is a showcase for our developing players and recent draft picks and I'm not impressed.

Yeah I don't get the hate. He has a NBA ready frame and is a decent distributer and shooter.

Yep. He seems to been the contingency plan for passing on Scoot. Take Miller then a backup scoring type PG in the second instead of a scoring PG then a SG/ SF in the second. Miller and Smith over Scoot and Miller (Leonard) though.

I just like Brady. I think he can be a solid role player in the league. We need players that just do their role and make other players better.

My takes are still better than them. I actually talk bout the Hornets.

Brady is a glue guy. Plays smart team ball. Without him on the court UNC fell apart. Know why? Cause it was a collection of talent with no glue. Much like the Hornets some talent but don't play cohesively.

Would have burned it all to the ground and started over. Play some money ball. Heck the Heat just was in the finals with "the replacements" squad and Butler. Get a real coach and draft better.

It's all gambles. Entire draft was a gamble. We passed on guys with less red flags to take gambles on others. The Melo deal is also a gamble. Can he stay healthy and become a superstar? I'm just not impressed by the moves. Free agency is looking like a gamble as well. All in on Bridges staying despite him and his agents being collectively known as idiots.

Bridges playing hardball at the negotiating table despite being a PR nightmare. Grant Williams got away cause we were distracted. We let Brady Manek sign elsewhere. PJ also likely to move on cause we focused on Bridges more. Coaching is still bottom tier. No culture change here. Sustained mediocrity. Lastly we passed on a guy in the draft for a "better" fit. Then proceeded to draft guard and wing over and over again. Make it make sense.

I bet ya Scoot dominates in his debut. 25 points and looks like he belongs. We will see Friday. That said now that Miller is a hornet, I hope he will develop but. As my last hurray as a scoot train guy I'm gonna take the over on scoot scoring more than Miller in summer league debut.

Typical ex team talking down bout the one that got away. Minnesota could have still used him but they let him go. Now he is trash according to their media. He is perfect for a rookie QB. Lots of third down clutch plays and sneaky TD's for him this year. Him and Hurst are the safety valves. Hopefully a healthy Chark, a developing TMJ and Mingo are the stars of the offense. I also think Mingo is meant to learn from and eventually replace Adam but as a bigger and younger slot.

I'm torn. Theilen and Nuke would be the best WR tandem that I can remember in a long time us having but maybe a couple years too late. Adam and Nuke both got a bit of age on them. I think Adam will help the young guys but I worry another vet might take reps from our young guys. I'd rather sign a corner with that money.

At least Oden had an NFL ready body. Young Shaq, Robinson and Duncan are the prototypes Wemby reminds me more of Manute.

Maybe they never got off the CJ train. Pre draft they were a bunch of folks making short jokes and talking out they butts like Ace Ventura. Some but not all were likely Trolls but still talking out they butts. One more time BUTTS. Oh lastly those people are arseholes.

And I'm down. Moving on from Hayward is a step. We need to take several steps in a different direction.

This is thinking outside the box. I like the idea of either pairing Melo with Scoot or Miller but a trade would revamp the team over night. Drop Bridges and use that money to resign Dennis and PJ. Heresy coming trade Melo to the pelicans for some picks. Maybe the 14th and a future 1st maybe or offload Hayward. We can dream. Get out from under the coming Melo, Bridges contracts and the anchor that has been Hayward's. Oh, and a new coach.

Hence the comparison to Bennett. My hope is YGM can fill that role or another. He is only 25 and has untapped potential because of the era of retardation. That Chinn and Burns developed under those circumstances is amazing. I also hope Tremble and TMJ can finally reach their potential with better coaching.