mickeye76

This is awesome news. TD and Olsen are class act guys.

My post was realism.

I agree. Until it happens or doesn't I would support a moratorium on the whole thing. It's boring. It's insulting. The media is basically saying we are desperate for attention and relevance. It's also insinuating we can't build a winning franchise without overpaying for other franchises players.

It's all speculations. It's all click bait. But I'm legitimately worried that Tepper is a knee jerk impatient twit like half of our fellow fans. Difference is they are ineffectual twats and Tepper actually signs the checks so he can make things happen (even if he shouldn't) I just feel they could wait two years into a rebuild before we start making drastic decisions. It's a slippery slope. Say we go big trade for the prize, off season hero's and everyone is talking bout how Carolina is ready for the spotlight. Then not surprisingly for me we fall short, say divisional playoff loss.. Then a couple years down the line after the shine of Watson and likely Rhule has faded we are looking for a new head coach and QB. It's kinda ironic that the road to mediocrity could be trying to take a shortcut to success.

So the Watson talk is everywhere. This is a game changing, dramatic shuffling of the deck. The all in talk is deafening. I'm not on board. A website gave trade options if we are indeed "all in" and I got to say my piece on the cons of said options. In no particular order. Trade option A. Four 1st round picks. Robby, Teddy and Chinn. Cons - first, let's give up Chinn a DROY for us and arguably could have been for entire league. He is not easily replaceable. Teddy is obviously not the answer but he is a decent backup. Then there is Robby. He played like a number 1b. He stepped up his game this year. With this trade add two wr's, backup QB and depending on how ya see Chinn two safeties and two linebacker to our needs in the off season. Four 1st rounders is a deal breaker if none of the other pieces aren't. Trade B. Three 1st round picks. CMC, Donte Jackson, and Shaq Thompson. 2022 2nd round pick. Cons - DEAD money. We finally rid ourselves of record dead cap money next year. This trade puts us back in that predicament. We weaken our secondary losing Jackson. Yeah, he has had some injury stuff but he has made progress and flashed. Gonna need two corners. Fact is I want two corners in upcoming draft even if Jackson is not traded. Shaq is derided on here but it is hard to think it will a case of addition by subtraction. Linebackers and secondary are not position groups that have much depth to begin with. Lastly, Christian is our rock. Yeah, injuries caught up with him this year but that was our fault not his. Give him some rest and use a change of style/ pace back with him and keep him fresh. Without him we will need to resign Davis. If we can't resign Davis lol we gonna be trying to replace CMC's production. Good luck. The 2nd round next year is almost inconsequential. But it would likely have come in handy to replace the talent we are getting rid of. Trade C. Three 1st round picks. 2022 second round pick. Curtis Samuel ( tag and trade) Derrick Brown, and Donte Jackson. Cons - Again Donte has not been a world beater but corners are a slow development group. The slow development is part of the reason it's not too bright to cut bait yet. Speaking of giving up too early on a talent. Brown is everything you want in a DT. Legit Primetime guy in the middle of the defense. What we need to be worried about is giving him a running partner beside him not having to replace him AND add another player in the middle. As far as Curtis goes if we gonna tag him we should keep him. He became mr. clutch this season. Trading him and possibly losing DJ Moore in free agency in the future is using monopoly terms "do not pass GO, do not collect 200 dollars" self inflicted f*#kery. TLDR synopsis. Without the draft capital and young stars under rookie contracts to contribute to the rebuild its all gonna fall on the shoulders of the prize trade target to make it happen. There will be missing pieces of the puzzle. We can pretend we are the Rams and just trade for big names and try to free agency our way to the promise land or we can build through smart moves in free agency and development of talent through the draft. I vote the later. We brought rhule, Fitterer and Brady in to develop and build. To go for a shortcut now is impatient.

I don't see the value. A cheap rookie left tackle compared to giving up a first round pick plus giving a big time extension to Brown. Brown wants to get paid. I would explore an option where we trade up with the dolphins and do a swerve and take Sewell before I would bet it all on a Brown trade. Also this is a solid oline class. We could take Slater or Darrisaw at 8. Or take a chance on Eichenberg, Leatherwood or Walker Little in the second.

I'm on that train too. Britt and Jabril are my favorites. Jabril was a mega watt star at North Dakota State. Then he went to LSU and played with the big boys. Him or Britt would be a nice addition. As far as free agency Hassan Reddick could bring some pass rush and veteran presence.

Ya don't take great backups in the top ten. I'm just not a fan that early. Yeah, top of the second or something sure. In my opinion all the qbs stock are grossly inflated. Trevor is legit. After that they all have question marks. They all are more like 2nd round guys when compared to lots of non-qb guys.

If we use a top 10 pick on Jones and only give him a year to figure it out I would consider that a wasted pick.

AJ McCarron was a back to back National Champion.

I'd be all right with this if we could also get half the Alabama oline with him. Yep. Leatherwood, Deonte Brown and Dickerson need to come along too. Without a elite level oline Mac gonna be a tackling dummy.

Its crazy how those sack numbers go down when you invest in a oline. Rivers and Brady are statues but we're well protected.

They got Watson fever. They want a quick fix. Honestly I think the Texans are gonna want more than three firsts. A player or two will be asked to be involved. Oh and sorry I'll pass on Dak too. In that scenerio if we include Jackson and Shaq we weaken the linebacker core and secondary. Then turn around and put bandaids on the oline with cosmi and Hudson.

Ok do any of y'all play poker? Ok Tepper is at the table with all the other high rollers do ya think he ain't gonna put chips on the table. He is gonna be involved. Does that mean he is gonna go all in on the Watson jackpot? The Jets and Dolphins are the chip leaders and can make bigger pushes but we got a play. Is it the one we need to make?

It was a unpopular opinion. Devil's advocate to a overripe tired situation. I was thinking maybe Watson is the pipedream. Y'all keep dreaming.

Not disputing that Rivera overstayed his welcome. I'm talking bout how people were calling for his head one year before a coach of the year and 15-1 season.

Pat on the back for myself. So tired of the dozens of threads bout the Panthers trading for Watson. I mean how many more can any of us stand. If it happens cool for y'all. I'll enjoy playing the hindsight game and talking bout the picks we traded. We will see who was "stupid" one day. Or we could win a super bowl every year Watson is under contract. I have my doubts. Shid he never did it in Houston. Hell how many playoff games did he win? That's par.

way to be a typical condescending internet bully. My view is just as valid. I don't want teddy but I don't want to sell the farm for Watson.

I'm implying nothing. I am saying maybe we like our name in the hunt. In my scenario we keep our picks and we keep our core players whether thats CMC, Burns, etc. Y'all impatient.

Exactly. Maybe we like Fields. Maybe that's the smoke screen.

Ok going on. Rivera sucks your a genius.

Another benefit will be keeping 3 first rounders and some great players. Y'all are overreacting much like how some wanted to fire Rivera before he could get a chance. Give Rhule three years before y'all get all antsy. Lots of salary cap room in 2022. Another draft and off season this season we gonna have some pieces in place.

So I'm stupid? If some of y'all gave your way you gonna have to change your tag cause burns and chinn gonna be in Houston.

If the chips fall the price to trade up for our pick of a rookie goes down. The more qbs go to a new home we are able to get a guy. For instance if the Jets go big for Watson then fields should be there at three. Trading up for a rookie gonna be cheaper than the Watson sweepstakes

Unpopular opinion and personal pipe dream. Watson is a smoke screen. We are driving up the price and also keeping our profile high. Smart move would be to let the chips fall where they may and reap the benefits of the market settling.