GoobyPls
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We were the only team that was actively trying to trade for after the allocation and he still said no lol. Ive been in the draft a QB camp
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It looks like Baker is writing his goodbyes on Twitter lol
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Not it’s not, Florio even reported a while back the Texans would have agreed to trade him to Carolina last season, but Watson declined it.
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If Watson wanted to be a panther he would be one by now, it’s quite clear he doesn’t want to. We have pursued him more than any other team in the league and he still says no. Tepper has to give it up and draft a QB
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Eagles and Seahawks are the only team with the draft capitol to trade for him
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He’s Darnold on steroids
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Based on what? He wasn’t good when he played joe he hasn’t played in 5 years lol
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Corral will be the best QB of this class. He has the best mix of attributes. He was the best QB in the country before he hurt both his ankles and his top 3 WR got hurt
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“A lot of mid-tier prospects, but no franchise QB”
GoobyPls replied to ncfan's topic in Carolina Panthers
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I don’t get the Kyler comparison, Pickett played double the amount of games and wasn’t until his last year that he had a great season
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Rather draft the 5th ranked rookie QB than Trubisky
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Those are just the first two articles to pop up that’s how bad Stafford was playing o can keep posting them from multiple dates. Either way you seem to pick and choose what to respond to, cause you have zero comeback for most of what I say. Only a complete moron would make the argument for Stafford being a HOF now.
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I posted another article there you seem to avoid, I also said never specified a specific week, so yes Stafford led the nfl in picks and pick sixes or do you deny that. From November 7 to end of the season he had 13 ints nice of you to dodge more facts
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Willis scares me, reminds me of Jordan Love.
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He has and voters were taking that into account https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2022/01/02/matthew-stafford-throws-fourth-pick-six-of-the-season-27th-of-his-career/ https://apnews.com/article/nfl-sports-los-angeles-green-bay-packers-los-angeles-rams-254c20587b9d247c8698e5319949bdd2 You just were saying how average QBs make the pro bowl, so now it’s cause there were HOF QBs in the nfc, do you want me to list all the non HOF QBs who have made pro bowls over the last decade. It’s not hard that’s why it hilarious to even argue that that thinks Stafford is HOF player now Winning isn’t a QB stat yet your whole argument centers around the fact that Stafford just WON the SB. So what is it? A QB most certainly has the most affect of any position whether a team wins or not especially in the regular season. There’s a reason Caldwell had a winning record with Peyton, on that same colts roster that went 2-14. Why does Rivera have a losing record without Cam and winning with him? You bring up defense, you know it’s hard for a defense to be competitive when your QB does nothing for 3 quarters right? That 2017 that you dismiss is a perfect example. Stafford had 100 yards 0 TD going into the 4Q, but yeah let’s blame the defense. And not rushing the ball helped his volume stats which are bolstering his argument nowadays. The lions weren’t even close to the 31st team. They have had better offensive weapons and pass protection than the overwhelming majority of teams in Stafford tenure. It’s not their fault they had an underachieving QB. You are making the same argue me that Darnold fanboys made “hurrr the jets never won a game when Darnold was hurt” that’s doesn’t mean Darnold was any good. Same goes for Stafford, if the lions had a legit franchise changing QB their fortune would have been a whole life different.
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Lmao now I know you are not watching the games. Going into the 4Q vs GB the rams were losing 36-17 and Stafford just threw his lead leading pick six. Do you just read the stat sheet and think he had a good game? Lmao let me guess when we played him in 2017 and had an 17 point lead entering the 4Q you also thought he had a good game. It’s like talking to a child, I already stated the pro bowl isn’t the end all be all and there are guys who get snubbed every year. What you clearly keep avoiding is the FACT every single HOF QB has had more than one pro bowl appearance, can’t handle facts. The jags were worse than the lions without Stafford and have been worse over the last 15 years all the data backs that up and now you can’t accept that. So Stafford had a decent coach according to you and he still struggled to beat win I g teams. You have guys like Peyton who took 4 different coaches to a SB and Stafford is out here struggling to get even over .500 and you think he’s a HOFer LMAO
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At that same time the voting was coming to and end Stafford was throwing pick sixes left and right, single handily losing games for the rams. And you wonder why he wasn’t voted in. Actually 3-13-1 with a -141 point differential is much better than the jags 3-14 -204 point differential. Stafford had a part in getting those guys fired, don’t forget Caldwell also.
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And it started in mid November when Kyler only had one loss as a starter. They just finished with a better record without Stafford…. And who is to say they wouldn’t have drafted a better QB
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Yet you still need the pro bowl to make the HOF. Kyler was the leading mvp candidate before he got hurt, at the time of the voting he was clearly having a better season. And more recently the jags have the number 1 pick on back to back seasons. And have picked top 5 in the last 15 years more than any team in nfl history over a 15 year stretch
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I dismissed cause it’s supposed to be dismissed, I bring up the pro bowl cause it’s fact. For how much of a joke the pro bowl is you still need to make it more than once in order to be a HOF player, that’s why you avoid the question like a plaque. Pretty sure the jags have been worse than the Lions over the last 15 years, and no I picked two specific games showing the perfect description of Stafford career and why he has gaudy numbers. You see unlike you I don’t view wins or pro bowls as the end all be all, I actually watch football and can tell the difference between a QB being carrried and vice versa. Goff, Dalton, Jimmy G are all the same caliber guys who can win with a loaded roster but will never be the reason you win, Stafford is more talented than these guys but he is not on the caliber of QBs who can carry bad teams clearly showing in his Detroit years. And Stafford has had better weapons than the majority of QBs so it’s not like he was out there with trash I even thought the rams would win, why? Cause they were only a decent QB away. Again the made the SB with Goff.