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The Athletic: Is this the worst Panthers team of all time.
electro's horse replied to Tbe's topic in Carolina Panthers
No. This team is better than both 2001 and 2010 -
so did the panthers, right up until they handed in the envelope.
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on one hand this was in the garbagest of garbage times on the other, we've seen bryce in garbabe time against prevents, and he somehow manages to run out the clock without scoring points
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you mean you don't keep your 1998 nfl mock draft trapper keeper around at all times in case you need to win an argument? I can PROVE i was right about Greg Ellis being good enough to play nose tackle in the nfl
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he started 16 games that year what are you talking about also was better in pretty much every counting stat than bryce is this year, with the exception of interceptions. Of course peyton had the disadvantage of being able to keep passes past 20 yards inbounds also played back when defenses could still hit people. Bryce wouldn't make it a month in the late nineties NFL.
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The S2 lab and its testing... not for the faint of heart
electro's horse replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
musculoskeletal system has nothing to do with neurotransmission. -
Bryce Young Cannot Make Basic NFL Throws
electro's horse replied to BIGH2001's topic in Carolina Panthers
Look at his shoulders rolling forward and internally rotating when he’s waiting for the snap weightlifting for qbs is different and not everyone at the nfl level does the same thing but this kid has never done a press in his life I can guarantee you that -
We have tickets in 126 and the market is so flooded we had to lower prices for DALLAS. Dallas tickets usually pay half the PSL
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Bryce Young Cannot Make Basic NFL Throws
electro's horse replied to BIGH2001's topic in Carolina Panthers
Like frank reich would have realized this. Say what you want about him he’s had success as a coach and player and knows something when he sees it. Frank was clearly lying about the whole “technique next year” thing. Because he was told to from tepper or it’s just his nature he was protecting Bryce in those press conferences. reich (and the rest of the coaching staff) spent all offseason and the first part of the regular season talking about how smart and advanced and good at reading defenses and understanding the playbook Bryce is. That’s clearly not true, but no one has a problem saying “yeah that was bullshit.” -
Bryce Young Cannot Make Basic NFL Throws
electro's horse replied to BIGH2001's topic in Carolina Panthers
Love to spend two first round picks on a qb who needs all of his mechanics reworked. bryce has grown up in high end, invitation only qb camps and prep schools and has always had access to the best coaches. Top tier prep qbs these days are going to top dollar camps run by NFL qbs. Peyton Manning runs a camp every year that’s invitation only, and it just churns out nfl players. Haven’t you wondered why it looks like all these guys on different teams know each other? Obviously Joe burrow played at osu and lsu where like half of the nfl played, but have you not wondered why it seems everyone knows and respects him? Because they’ve been playing with each other since sixth grade Bryce’s mechanics are heavily coached to overcome his physical limitations. He’s on his toes because he can’t see. He keeps his hips squared up because he can’t see. He’s bouncy because he wants to get out of the pocket because he can’t see. He’s hesitant to throw because nfl windows are smaller and he’s not accurate enough because of his mechanics. That’s the end of it. talking about fixing Bryce mechanics now is like talking about a car being fine, it just needs an all new drivetrain. -
The S2 lab and its testing... not for the faint of heart
electro's horse replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
in the first S2 thread i explained thoroughly how the creators took various things from something called a Neuropsych Evaluation and slapped it on QB performance. Neuropsych Evals are very detailed tests to figure out exactly what neuro-cognitive deficits a patient has (Lewy Body, Stroke, TBI, etc). One part of it measures what is called visual spatial coordination or processing, it's called a few things. Basically how you take visual information, process it, and act (or don't) on it. A very simple example of this is the drawing a clock test. It requires the patient to recall an abstract concept (time), a concrete expression of it (a clock), and recreate this mechanically (draw it.) Alzheimer's for example looks like this. The actual NeuroPsych test is much more in depth and measures ocular reflexes and a whole host of other things. They took that and just said "good quarterbacks do X. Do you want to be good?" On top of that, they teach classes for QBs to do better on this test. So they were trying to make their test part of the player evaluation process and were selling classes to get better at it. This was a transparent scam and a massive HIPAA violation from the start and one day I'm going to go through that old S2 thread and shame every fuging idiot who decided they wanted to argue with a Neurology APP about it. -
Bryce Young Cannot Make Basic NFL Throws
electro's horse replied to BIGH2001's topic in Carolina Panthers
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Bryce Young Cannot Make Basic NFL Throws
electro's horse replied to BIGH2001's topic in Carolina Panthers
No look pass. He's a point guard. What's the problem? -
Bryce Young Cannot Make Basic NFL Throws
electro's horse replied to BIGH2001's topic in Carolina Panthers
the quotes about this fuging dinner read like that onion article about bicycle socks that turns into a hardcore gay threesome halfway through. -
Again, pro days at colleges are like playing with a stacked deck. And there were plenty of concerns about his arm strength coming out, those concerns were just mollified by Super Elite Processor Timing whatevers. I mean this is technically a completion but it's everything we've noticed is wrong with him and it's with ghost pressure in his face on an empty field Also you can't see it but the WR has to bail out this catch because it's overthrown.
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josh rosen went to the dolphins for a 2nd roudner and he was BAD bad his rookie year. Not bryce bad but still. Trent Richardson was traded for a first and literally did not know how to play football. i still think you could get probably a 3rd/4th just based on pedigree. NFL front office people are sometimes just as stupid as the fan bases. Rams seem like they would take a flyer on him if they could figure out the cap stuff. They need a qb project after Stetson put his whole career up his nose. Panthers might have to eat some cap and Tepper would have to literally eat poo for it but weirder things have happened
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The best way to evaluate Young
electro's horse replied to Brent Gregory's topic in Carolina Panthers
if dalton came in and competently ran the offense than yes, it would make tepper look terrible. and some of us want that for many reasons! "Haters" are just realists who's entire worldview isn't contingent upon getting pissed on and calling it rain. -
1. He skipped throwing at the combine at least in part because he had forcefed himself to the point one scout said he looked like "a pregnant woman" and didnt' feel comfortable taking off his baggy pants and hoodie. 2. It's literally not. There are plenty of exmples of QBs that sank due to combine performances. Brady Quinn is the big one that comes to mind. Peoiple thought he had a cannon, then the draft process started and he went and threw and scouts realized he was a blimp launcher. Matt Leinart was another. People can't really tell with all the various things going on in a game just how big the arm is, or how bad their footwork is, or if they can take adjustments. You also want to see them in person. Deshaun Watson is someone that worked on his delivery a lot between the end of his college career and the combine. He fixed his footwork and launch angles and improved things and no one would have trusted him if he didn't show it off at the combine. He was great in college (when he wasn't sexually assaulting masseuses) but he threw a duck. Workouts at team facilities aren't as good. Player knows everything, familiar with teh field, has his own guys to throw to, schools fudge up all the numbers (florida is notorious for having multiple people break the record for 40 yard dash every season) etc. Combine has a ton of problems with it and I'm not saying it's perfect but judging arm strength requires a lot more than watching film and stuff. You gotta get your hands on them. If bryce had thrown every scout would have seen a skinny fat kid doing uncle rico impersonations and holding back GOMAD shits. Ken Dorsey was another really funny one. He did a skill competition after 1998 with like Favre, Bledsoe, and Steve Beurlein (1998 season never forget). Basically just them standing at the fifty midfield and hitting targets in the endzone. The three nfl players were just nailing trash cans from fifty out with no effort at all. Dorsey crow hopped into a pass that landed at the 15 yard line outside of the hashes. it was like "oh my that's not an nfl arm."
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Bryce Young Cannot Make Basic NFL Throws
electro's horse replied to BIGH2001's topic in Carolina Panthers
Absolutely by training camp. They hid him in the preseason. like I said, rewatch the Atlanta game or just the quick refresher on his throws. Took Atlanta about a quarter to figure him out. -
Who has been the Panthers MVP this season.
electro's horse replied to CamWhoaaCam's topic in Carolina Panthers
brown or luvu have been the most obvious standouts. thielen is good on offense. Chuba runs hard. special teams guys are fine. that's about it. -
Bryce Young Cannot Make Basic NFL Throws
electro's horse replied to BIGH2001's topic in Carolina Panthers
remember in Atlanta he was allowed to change plays at the line. that was before the coaching staff realized "oh god this kid can't do anything." -
Bryce Young Cannot Make Basic NFL Throws
electro's horse replied to BIGH2001's topic in Carolina Panthers
This whole “gotta see him on a better team before evaluating him” nonsense is the most transparent bullshit. It’s a thought terminating cliche for people that can’t handle how wrong they were about him and how badly the team has failed. It’s setting up an impossible standard that will never achieved because it’s not being made in good faith. like even if Bryce has not shown glaring weaknesses in his individual game that have nothing to do with what’s going on around him (which lmao if you think he hasn’t) am I supposed to believe he’s going to survive until the panthers turn into the 49ers? And his footwork is not something you’re going to fix. We know based on what Chark said and the athletic article that reich lied about play calls or Bryce’s decisions to protect him. This “we’re gonna work on mechanics next season” nonsense was obviously a lie to protect him and/or tepper. -
I’m telling you, spoiled rich kid who’s always been at the best camps and high schools and had the best talent. dude absolutely does not have it. Tepper drafting him was the equivalent of some Ivy League poo getting a 300k consulting job out of school because their parents are big political donors.