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  1. this is now the second offensive minded head coach explicitly brought on to coach up bryce who has hid him in the preseason. he's practicing this poorly knowing he can't be hit. dude is going to get murdered the first start he makes. NFL defenses have to smell blood. Nothing but cover zero suicide blitz every play.
  2. Bryce is absolutely counting the days until he’s on dancing with the stars.
  3. I swear to god turning down that rams trade for first two and three drafts in the future is going to live rent free in some peoples heads for the rest of their lives.
  4. Your day is done. Enjoy the rest of your Friday. Your boss will agree.
  5. I’m not sure what else we can use as a baseline It’s a reasonable improvement relative to a bunch of other qbs that don’t have his limitations. I agree that it would be hideous. That’s the point. 18-20 would basically take an unheard of improvement.
  6. Yeah I was thinking of including him but the Sean Mcvay factor is huge. I also didn’t include Jordan love for obvious reasons. bryce defenders, if there are any left, want to look to Trevor Lawrence for hope. Interesting that Lawrence went from a gimmicky coach with no NFL head coaching experience to an nfl veteran former QB who won a Super Bowl with the eagles. Bryce is doing the opposite.
  7. Cruel of the surgeons not to delay the cataract procedure until after the season. Hang in there Mr Scot
  8. I decided to look at the difference in statistical performances between the first and second year starting for some QBs to see what insights we can gather about what a 2nd year jump would look like for Bryce. I decided to use rate stats for this, and I chose four that I thought were pertinent to our little guy. Completetion% - passes completed/attempted TD% - Completed passes leading to a TD Int% - Completed passes that went to the wrong dude Air yards per attempt (AY/A) - how far the ball travels in the air per pass, regardless of whether it was caught or not. These were chosen not for any specific reason. I welcome people to look at other stats if they think they're more relevant. I got my information from https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ Obvious caveat that compared to other sports there simply isn't a ton of data for quarterbacks to fit any kind of meaningful statistical model. Cowboys led the league last year in passes per game at just under 38. For comparison, the average pitches per game per team in MLB is 146. You can see there's just a lot more individualized data points available for comparison. And obviously it's difficutl to compare QBs across systems and across skill positions and blah blah blah. This is not meant to be predictive, just add some recent historical context to predictions for this season. Also I didn't use excel for this because I've made it this far in life not being able to use it and I'm not going to change now; i wrote this out and did the math in between charting because I was bored. I decided to compare him to recent QBs who've started in their first year. Again, reasonable people can disagree on who I chose here and that's fine. The QBs are Jalen Hurts, Kyler Murray, Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, Tua Tag..., Justin Herbert, and Brock Purdy. I also did the numbers for Daniel Jones, Joe Burrow, and Lamar Jackson, but excluded them because they're outliers. Jones got worse pretty much across the board, Burrow got better with every stat except one, and Lamar Jackson basically turned into football jesus. I looked at the percentage change in each of the chosen QBs stats between their first and second year starting and averaged it out, and got this. Note that there are not a lot of dramatic increases here anywhere. Completion % - +3.37 average increase - I feel like this is about what you'd expect. Getting more familiar with system, learning how to check down, take what the defense gives, game slows down etc. Standout here was Jalen Hurts who went from 52% to 62.5 for a +9.3% change. Good lord. TD % - +0.85% - again, not much change here, just under 1%. Now if you're throwing 300 times a year (for example), that's about 2.5 extra TDs per year, and in a game where the average score differential is under 7 points, that's pretty important. Burrow increased his by 3.3% which is insane, until you look at Lamar's +5.5%. Goodness. Int % - MINUS 0.14% - I'm not going to do a statistical analysis but I suspect this isn't even significant. Joe Burrow actually went up, but I attribute that to game situations etc. Air Yards/Attempt - +0.75 yards. Again, not huge. Joe Burrow for funsies actually increased his by 2.3 yards. Trevor Lawrence increased his by 2.1 yards, and more on that a little later, if there's interest. So uh, let's look at Bryce's stats, and see what the average increase from these players would get him too and where that would rank him in 2023. BRYCE YOUNG Completion% - 58.8% (31st 2023) Increasing this by 3.37 would bring him to 63.17%, good for 24th in 2023 between Sam Howell and Joshua Dobbs TD% - 2.1% (31st in 2023) Increasing this by 0.85 would bring him all the way up to 30th in 2023, between Mac Jones and Zach Wilson. He essentially moves up one spot. Int% - 1.9% (14th in 2023) Decreasing this by 0.14% moves him to 10th in the NFL, between Gardner Minshew and and Kirk Cousins. AY/A - 5 (33rd in 2023, last in the league) Increasing this by 0.75 yards per attempt gets him all the way up to 30th in 2023, between Zack Wilson and Sam Howell. so what does any of this mean? As I stated, this is not meant to be a definitive or an authoritative statistical analysis. I was just throwing some poo against the wall. Just glancing over all this I think my main takeaways are 1. There's just not a lot of data, so there's not a lot of change. 2. With only a few exceptions, QBs don't really change that much between their first and second seasons. There are a few notable exceptions, like Lawrence with his completion percetnage, Hurts with his AY/A, and Jackson with his completion%, but for the most part what these stats are in the first season are what they'll be in the second 3. Bryce's completion%, ay/a, and TD% were so bad in 2023 that even with a similar bump that his contempories had, he's still a bottom tier QB. to put this another way, for Bryce's Ay/a to be top 20 in 2023, he'd need to be 6.77 yards per attempt; this is what Jalen Hurts did that year. I think most of us would agree that in the second year, a QB worth 2 first rounders should be top 20 in yards traveled through the air per pass. For bryce to get there, he'd need to increase his ay/a by 1.77 yards. This doesn't seem like a lot, but this is per attempt. This includes his throws behind the line of scrimmage. An increase of 1.77 yards would be more than double the average of the players I charted, and would be more in their second season than anyone not named Trevor Lawrence (2.1) or Joe Burrow (2.3). In 2023, league average TD percentage was 4.1% For Bryce to get there he'd need to essentially double his 2.1%, which is MORE than double the average of the players sampled at 0.85% increase. conclusion - based on these four stats, for Bryce just to become a top 20 QB, he'll need an essentially meteoric improvement between his first and 2nd season relative to the players i crunched the numbers on. probably needs the preseason reps
  9. it took about 17 minutes of gametime for the falcons to figure him out and make it very clear this was never going to work. loved the morons here claiming it was the wide receivers fault bryce was throwing go out routes of bounds, or practically handing the ball off to jessie bates.
  10. Can’t wait to spend hundreds of dollars to watch the coach energetically lead a 3 win team.
  11. i feel like ngakoue has been about to sign here for years
  12. also, peppers is his only client. it is a REALLY weird relationship
  13. just so we're clear, this is the guy who negotiated peppers' contract in chicago well before the deadline, and had peppers announce he wanted to play in a 3-4 to nuke his trade value. Also told him to announce he'd only accept a trade to like new england and someone else (can't remember) to make sure Carolina didn't trade him before he could be signed a second after free agency started. ALSO almost certainly involved in the UNC academic scandal. Dude's a piece of poo
  14. how many breakouts would it take for bryce to be average? atleast 2 right? to be the 15th best qb in the league? if he was a top 25 qb this year it'd be considered a breakout
  15. terrified if i actually read that OP i'll black out and wake up in a 3rd world basement, surrounded by screaming asian guys, with a red bandana tied around my forehead and a chambered revolver in front of me
  16. Also for whatever the medium green egg doesn’t work as well as the large or XL. just like doesn’t hold temp as well or burn as cleanly as you’d expect. I e replaced everything on it multiple times. Weird.
  17. best brisket i ever had was at a gas station/bbq place in austin. worst was at copper this year at this shitty bbq joint place on the slopes. Just complete garbage.
  18. and son. SON i've done two briskets on my green egg. first was a complete disaster and i ended up slicing it and tossing it in the overn to finish just so i had something to serve second started on a saturday night for a sunday dinner. i only have a medium GE so i can't get the big ones, but it was decent sized. probably about 17 hours on the smoker. had to change the lump like 6 or 7 times, then i think i let it sit for 2 hours. i was so fuging high by that point i can't remember there were no leftovers
  19. i think also it might be a shitty picture. the color looks right. smoke ring looks good. just looks dry
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