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You forgot the goat: He Hate Me.

Wish I had any faith in the CO to do a good job with this. They hated Cam. Will never forget them publishing the whiny letter from that dumb, sore-loser, Tennessee Titans karen. The paper did not stand behind that team. I’ll still give it a shot but this just feels inauthentic given the source.

I didn’t say it was new, I said it was silly to put one blanket statement over everybody, and if you insist on calling them lotto picks then it’s dumb to act like they are all the exact same odds, and that you have to apply the logic to everybody. And you keep leaving out my whole point about this “proven 1000 yd receiver”. 1000 yd receiver who’s 31yr old, been on the downswing since 2022, and coming off a major knee injury. And I’ve talked about 2 Panthers RBs and Tmac from the word go so you make up a list of 3 that only includes 1 of them when the list in question is not even a ranking of “big 3’s”. I mean you are clearly just ignoring everything I’m saying and picking whatever makes the Panthers look worst just to die on whatever hill you’re on so you do you. The list is dumb, I’m sorry you like it more than I do.

You didn’t really address the point, just like you ignored the point about the RBs initially, and saying “they are all lotto picks” is just a really silly reduction because you could say that about literally any player rookie or vet every snap, every game, every year. It is well known that different positions have different hit rates, and I would argue different types of prospects within position groups as well, and that hit rates change the further down in the draft you go. Everybody knows QB is different and that, for example, first round OL have a really high success rate. Using your lotto ticket analogy…again…you are saying a lotto ticket with a 1 in 100 chance of hitting is the exact same thing as a lotto ticket with a 1 in 2 chance of hitting (this is an example, don’t take these odds literally). The point was he is no more of a lotto ticket than the 31yr old receiver coming off a major knee injury, and in my opinion he is better odds with a higher potential “jackpot”. Saying one player is an “lotto ticket” while another isn’t is just not sound logic. You have no idea who will break out, regress, get injured, etc. There are safer bets than others, that’s all. I don’t think Diggs is a safe bet and even if he was, weighing him over all of the Panthers WRs plus 2 1k rushers is just dumb. You can disagree if you want. The list is stupid.

I don’t view Tmac as a lotto ticket. Size and hands translate, this isn’t some speed guy like John Ross getting over drafted based on a 40 time. Now, the 31yr old coming off a major knee injury, that’s like a $10 scratcher with a $5k jackpot. The list sucks.

Not sure if anything should be made of it, but Coker noticeably absent. No Renfrow either. Those are 2 guys I would think would be fighting for their place in the pecking order and getting more reps with QB1 to develop timing and feel would seem to be important.

Add a #1 receiver and 1000yd rusher to the 28th ranked unit, lose nobody of any value, and you get the 31st ranked unit? Makes no sense.

Well, I got one right.

Or wait, is it just guys drafted by the Panthers but not necessarily long time Panthers? If so, Evan Mathis?

Haven’t looked at anything including comments. OL I’m assuming Ryan Kalil since I don’t know who else it would be. 3 DBs is interesting since we don’t have a great history of DBs. I’m guessing one is Josh Norman since he was drafted pretty late. I don’t remember when Gamble was drafted but I could see it being him if he was drafted 3rd round or later. And maybe Minter?

Oh I see, carry on.

They are practicing. Putting in their contracts that they can’t practice outside of what the CBA allows the team to do would be an excellent way to stay the worst team in the league forever.

Yeah it’s just too bad there’s not another Hornets franchise out there for us to trade all these second round picks to for a lotto pick.

That would be interesting but I would definitely want them to go to a hard cap if they went that route. And if they ever got rid of the draft completely, boy if you think the Hornets are fugged now…

Well everybody and their momma thought he sounded bought in when he was interviewed post-draft, which was when I posted. All that other stuff you mentioned just came out and I made that post a day and a half ago the morning after he was drafted when he sounded pretty bought in. The Jazz say there’s no problems atp, so we’ll see. But yeah obviously if his actions don’t match up with his words it will be a shitty look.

As unathletic as he is compared to other NBA players, Luka is still a superior athlete to Knueppel and has way better length for his size and still struggles defensively. We’ve also seen fat James Harden put up video game numbers offensively but couldn’t play defense. I’m sure Knueppel will at least try harder on D than those 2, so there is that at least.

As one of the biggest Miller over Scoot stans at that time, this is clearly different because everything is all about me and what I want. But in all seriousness, I think most of the argument against Miller at that time was about off the court stuff but on the court he was clearly the better player. So if I had to compare, I would say this feels more like if we had drafted not Scoot instead of Miller, but a player ranked more around 6th on big boards instead of either. Bailey was pretty much universally a top 3 player in this draft and Knueppel was not.

Culture change comes from the top down, not from drafting a 3 and no D guard. I doubt Lamelo is gonna take his cues from this 20yr old kid lol. If Brandon Miller couldn’t change the culture with how good he is and how much he hustles on both ends, Kon Knueppel sure as hell ain’t changing it. Ace Bailey by all accounts is also a great teammate and hard worker, btw, who was drafted by a team he supposedly didn’t want to go to yet he immediately bought in. And he’s got actual length and tools on both ends of the floor. I feel this pick is going to age like milk rather quickly.

And one of the bigs went off the board immediately after. Wouldn’t be surprised to see another big go before we pick again.

How do you not draft a big to try to develop after trading Williams?

You know the Mark Williams trade would make a lot more sense if we had someone like, say, Jalen Duren on the roster as well. When it’s all said and done we’ll have traded Mark Williams and Jalen Duren for Nick Smith Jr. and 6 d league players. Somebody needs to tell the Hornets that collecting a bunch of d league players won’t cause them to Voltron into lottery picks. We’ve got a sign around our necks “will trade lottery picks for all your most worthless picks”

You can’t convince me this franchise doesn’t exist just to be a feeder for the rest of the league. They just bend over and take it at every turn.

This franchise is so dumb but not entirely unexpected. The other team Bailey’s camp said he didn’t want had the balls to draft him and we didn’t. Name a franchise more obsessed with drafting second fiddle dook players.

I hadn’t seen that they singled out the Hornets and Jazz…that sucks. Still they should draft him, I don’t think teams in general should bend to players trying to dictate who drafts them.

Their defensive weaknesses in their draft profiles read like carbon copies, lack of athleticism to match with superior nba athletes, lateral agility, etc. Like I said, there’s no shortage of defensive liability mid athletes who can catch and shoot 3s. He’s projected high because he’s a tall guard who shot a high % and he defended well in college, but he doesn’t even have good length for his height and every single draft profile has questions about his ability to defend at the next level. If he stayed in school another year and dipped to even 38% from 3 he’d be a late first maybe second. He’s getting hype off small sample size where his weaknesses weren’t sufficiently exposed and an efficiency rate that is all but guaranteed to come down. Singler was a projected lotto pick after 1 year, too, he just stayed in school long enough for everybody to see how low his ceiling was.