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ECHornet
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He took half a mile to slow down to attempt the catch on the sideline.
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Bryce has zero chance playing with this trash dump roster.
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Watch Josh Palmer when he comes back Week 13ish for the Chargers. Next year is the last of his rookie contract and the Chargers have Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, and Quentin Johnson under contract next year. They’ll likely move on from one of Williams or Palmer. Palmer is 25 and would be an upgrade to our WR room. ~6 to 7 mil per year would give us a solid #2 for the foreseeable future. Bring in Evans or Higgins and then we’re cooking with WR1 Evans/Higgins, WR2 Palmer, and Slot Thielen.
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Tough. Get will soon, big man.
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What looked like a solid contract just became a potential liability.
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I looked at it. If he doesn’t sail that pass, it’s probably another INT as the DB was undercutting Tremble who created no separation.
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Keep correcting yourself when your assessments are incorrect.
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Let the hate flow through you
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Agree on it being a great play from the DB. Still think it would have been a batted pass, at worst, if Mingo runs down the 30.
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That’s what he’s projected to receive and why I think he’d be a great fit.
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Which of our WRs are better than Gabe Davis? FA is about upgraded the roster. He would do that and not kill our cap. He also only has two less TDs than DJ Moore despite playing two less years. He finds the end zone. We need that.
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The ball was thrown as soon as he cleared the LB. Above are the next two steps. Ball is already out in the 2nd frame before Mingo clears the hash.
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Gabe Davis for me. Young <25yo Cheaper (projected ~12.5mil per) 6’3 Could instantly be our best skill position player next year unless Theilen maintains his play in the slot. Lock him up 4-5 years and we would still have plenty of cap to add to the WR room.
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I should just move on, but this is way off. You suggest Bryce should have hit Mingo about middle of the field here. There is very clearly a LB squatting in the middle of the field. Bryce threw it when he should have and the fact that Mingo drifted off his drag line by 3 yards opened a window for the INT.
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Some Huddlers would claim Tremble is open here. The DB would plant his foot to defend the pass to Tremble if Bryce threw it there. The only thing Bryce could have done better, upon review, is step up in the pocket to allow either Tremble or Mingo to come open. With that said, he’s probably thinking Mingo will run the route in blue which wouldn’t have ended as poorly.
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You don’t think our WRs being the worst in the NFL at getting open affects our QB? Interesting
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They’re saying this is the worst collection of WRs we’ve probably ever faced. Jump every squatting route with no fear.
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CJ looks like a great young QB whose WRs are getting open at a rate around middle of the pack in the NFL. Bryce hasn’t even had a shot.
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A WR the Vikings decided to cut instead of paying a measly $12mil for just a year ago. Theilen has been good for us, but let’s not pretend like Bryce has much help.
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There are few things I’d rather see from a rookie QB than the ability to move a defense away from where you intend to throw. It’s very difficult to manipulate NFL defenders. To do so as a rookie, even for one play, is special.
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To those who watched all 4th quarters: why?
ECHornet replied to Sean Payton's Vicodin's topic in Carolina Panthers
My son is 9 and plays QB. Trying to get him to pay attention to formations and defenses. Hate our scheme though. -
There have been plays that are above average for NFL QBs. Did you miss them? The spin out of a sack and dot to Theilen on the run. The moving of a DB with his eyes/fake then hitting Mingo (I believe). The scramble and finding Theilen at the goal line. Those were great plays.
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So his size is what you’re referencing….got it. The only reason I might advocate sitting Bryce for the remainder of this season is so he could focus on adding 10-15lbs before next year. Batted balls were a big concern with his height. Haven’t seen that issue much this year. I think he can overcome the height, but he needs to be able to run through some arm tackles that have been sacks this year.
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History says a lot of franchise QBs weren’t in their rookie seasons. Anything else?
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Intangibles aside, let's grade straight-up QB traits (Bryce)
ECHornet replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
Accuracy: A from the pocket; B- on the run. See the recent graph posted here supporting Bryce’s accuracy. He’s putting it where he wants most of the time with some bad decisions in the mix. He’s sailed some I think he should hit while moving out of the pocket. Many of his incompletions are intentional throw always bc plays are dead with no chance. Arm Strength: C+ I think he has adequate arm strength, but his footwork fails his arm at times. Mechanics: D Biggest improvement needed here imo, with emphasis on his lower half mirroring his eyes during progressions. Elusiveness: C- in the pocket. B+ on the run. He’s made some nice moves in open field to evade tacklers. His movement in the pocket needs work. Release: A Size: F He needs to spend this off-season prioritizing adding 10+ lbs of lean muscle. Mobility/Running Ability: B+ See above. It seems pretty clear the coaches and Bryce don’t want him running a lot this year. Physical Toughness: B+ He missed one game so far and he’s under relentless pressure. Seems pretty tough to me.