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He’s not a rook anymore. A second year QB that has been less successful than Trubisky in similar situations. Everyone ragged on Mitch while many here covet Fields. I don’t get it.

They were the same garbage last year. Yes, I’d rather only be locked into subpar QB play for 1 year instead of 3. Why would you prefer the opposite? Hope that Fields improves? Yea, we did that with Darnold.

I am. I prefer to be in our current situation than in one where we’re locked into Fields for 3 more years without Horn. At least there is light at the end of the tunnel with Darnold’s last year under contract here. Fields, to date, is another Darnold and I’m glad we’re not locked into that longer term.

I’ll wait for all of your objective reasons Fields is a better NFL QB than Darnold, and why we would be better off with him for the next 3+ years instead of Darnold for 1 more.

Truth is we’re probably better off with Darnold than Fields. The only thing better with Fields thus far is more excitement bc we’d cling to the hope he could improve. Reality is he looks to be a mediocre or worse NFL QB and we would waste 3+ more years holding onto that hope of improvement. At least we know we need to move on from Darnold. Here’s to finding someone to replace him that puts up numbers twice as good as Fields last year.

Fields is 23 y.o. and Darnold is 24. Fields looks terrible and we all would be ticked we passed on Horn if Fields played like that for us last year.

You’re still wishing for that after Fields’s rookie campaign? I’ll pass until he shows he’s actually a better QB than Darnold. They were pretty comparable (trash) last year.

Are you just ignoring all of the suggested moves in this thread that could save 10s of millions in cap space?

Give me Jimmy G and here’s why…. If he’s our next QB, it’s likely because he was cut by SF and we’ve signed him for the year or we’ve swapped Darnold for him. That wouldn’t tie us down to someone we’re unsure of or mortgage our future by trading picks. We can still go BPA at #6 and he’d be a nicel bridge to our next (hopeful franchise) QB in ‘23. San Howell in a trade back scenario would be my next pick.

Go back one year and he was QB1 to many. All he did last year was prove he's more of a threat with his legs than previously thought. So....we can get the QB everyone thought was the best of this crop a year ago for a discount because his team struggled last year. Not because he did. Sounds great to me. Everyone yelled "UNC Homers" when we suggested Trubisky would be the best play before last year. Well look how it played out.

Can’t believe we’re in a situation where we can draft Howell at a discount bc of his lack of hype. We need to trade back or trade up and make it happen.

I see no way SF cuts Jimmy G. They could pretty easily swap him for Darnold and save cap space on their end. Why cut him outright when you can save money?

My opinion on our choices of replacements… Ioannidis = Jones Horn = Gilmore (considering future contributions here) Luvu/Haynes < Reddick 2022 OL >>> 2021 OL 2022 RB > 2021 RB 2022 S > 2021 S 2022 LB >> 2021 LB (safety acquisition allowing Chinn to play here some) We can’t afford to upgrade every position every year when aging studs don’t factor into future plans. Not upgrading on Reddick/Gilmore is easily offset by the improvements in other position groups which we couldn’t afford if we resigned them all. I feel we’ve chosen correctly to give opportunities to our talented young players, and used free agency to build up groups that have little to no talented young players.

I wish we had gone with my wish before last year and signed Trubisky. The argument for Mitch was more about the money it would take to acquire him and how cheap he would be. Turns out, we could have had Mitch in 2021, 2022, and 2023 for about the same price we're paying Darnold just in 2022. Which would you rather have done? At the very least, we would have had one of the NFL's best backup QBs. I think he'll do well as a Steeler. Trubisky's total cap hit over '21, '22, & '23: $16,785,000 + Zero Draft Picks Darnold's cap hit in '22: $18,858,000 + 2nd,4th,& 6th Rd Picks Ouch

Those saying he’s not too 10….what’s your reasoning based on or is it just a gut feeling? NFL.com thinks different…. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nfl.com/_amp/nfl-qb-index-end-of-2021-nfl-season-rankings They had Murray ranked #7 after the regular season.

To all those saying they don’t want Murray, where would you rank him talent wise out of current starting QBs? Most wouldn’t have him outside the top 10. If you’re in QB purgatory and can get a top 10 QB, I believe you have to make it happen.

Isn’t it possible we’re not interested in any of their current crop of players? Why waste time if so.

He’s doing what he thinks is best for his program. Trying to drum up interest in Jackson St. That does not mean sending a scout there was in the best interest of the Panthers. If no one there is a target, spend valuable time elsewhere. Jackson St won’t be able to prevent the Panthers from drafting a player in the future.

What decisions since firing Brady have been problematic? Everyone wanted changes and suggested firing Brady. He did and I believe that was the right move. Since then, I’ve been impressed more than disappointed with decisions from our leadership. I like the guys we brought in to coach. I like most of the deals we made in free agency (Ian Thomas being the biggest head scratcher imo). Let’s be as quick to give props over good moves as we are in criticizing the dumb. We messed up at QB. Two years running. That’s the biggest issue but what I like most is we are not complacent and are trying to address it. I’m optimistic at this point in the off-season. A better oline & healthy CMC paired with our young and promising defense may surprise you in 2022.

You think Rhule is the only coach/scout/GM that looked into Pickett’s hand size? After such a big deal was made about it prior to and at the combine? I get critiquing Rhule over passing on a guy like Slater (I still like the Horn pick), but creating issues over nothing just to complain gets old. Everyone has been talking hand size with Pickett.

He thinks he’s going to win a Super Bowl I’m Cleveland. lol Put me in the camp that thinks Watson will have some serious rust early this season. Many QBs have missed nearly a year from injury and returned to play well. There aren’t (m)any to point to that have had the non-football related distractions that likely kept Watson from sharpening his game.

I’d send Darnold + 2023 4th for Jimmy G. More than that and they can keep him. The 49ers would save ~$5-6mil in cap space and acquire what looks like a mid to high 4th round pick in 2023. Panthers would have a legitimate starting caliber QB and not be on the hook beyond next year. We can’t go another year without a starting QB. We would still use the draft this year or next to look for our franchise QB.

I like the Horn pick. We’re a low Slater pff grade in 2022 from no one believing he should’ve been picked over Horn. Especially if Horn had the kind of year we expect.

I agree with this. I think it’s safe to assume Neal, Ekwonu, and Hutch will all be gone by #6. Not saying they’ll be top 3, but somewhere top 5. I could see any of the other prospects falling to us in some scenario for now. Without trading back, I would be happy with any of Neal, Ekwonu, Cross, Hamilton, Hutch, or Thib. We’re guaranteed to have one of them available. Anyone else and I hope we’ve traded down and acquired more picks.

That’s not the type of contract I would’ve liked to see us agree to with Gilmore. Hometown discount or go get your money. That was the play with where we’re at as a franchise. He chose the money and hats off to him.