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Some people want to pay Carr $35 million per year to give us what Mitch Trubisky could for $6mil Both have 64% completion percentages. Add in the rushing advantage Trubisky gives you and Carr amounts to ~3 more TDs a season. Crazy talk to give this man over $100mil to play QB.

I can come up with 25 pretty quickly. Thats before we see what this rookie class has, although it’s regarded as a weak WR class.

It looks like all teams (except the Bears) in the league were between ~16-28%. That's not a huge discrepancy.

Many are sleeping on Sam Laporta imo. He’s my 3rd favorite TE in this class behind Mayer and Kincaid.

I don’t know why. I think in ~1.5 years, Bears fans will be wishing they traded Fields for picks and selected Young.

I disagree. Hopefully someone will do that research so future generations will know if those who’ve lived it truly think it’s worth it. I have had too many conversations with men who only played football for free and remember it fondly. The overwhelming majority of those I talked to would do it again.

You think if they could go back and had the choice, 100 to 1 NFL players would choose not to play?

I hope it’s not from the Panthers.

For every one of these guys, there’s probably 100 who would say it’s worth it and would do it again if they could.

It was pretty funny with the valentines and all, to be honest. I wouldn’t have done it or been proud of my son if he did, but I laughed.

Yea, it’s crazy to look back at what used to be. I understand those differences. I also think Lamar’s last couple of years should be heavily considered in the negotiations, and not just his former MVP tag. Apparently, the Ravens agree.

I like all of our 2022 draft except the Corral pick. It should have been Howell or <hindsight> Purdy later. I believe the unfortunate injury to Corral will provide cover for the front office on that draft mistake. Maybe he’ll prove me wrong in 2023. After one year, I’d go… 1st: A (hit on one of our biggest needs) 3rd: F (would have said D if not for trading up) 3 picks in 4th-6th: B (good potential guys who all flashed when given opportunities as rookies) 7: C (7th rounders are above average if they make the final 53. Since he hung on elsewhere and we had a lot of DBs, I give it an average grade).

I’m asking why he wants more guaranteed than Mahomes, and with his style of play and durability concerns, it seems the Ravens are taking a smart approach. That’s my last comment to you on this topic as you clearly can’t avoid bringing race into every discussion.

3 years ago, Patrick Mahomes signed for $45mil per year with $63mil guaranteed at signing. I’d be happy to throw a $35-40mil per year, long-term deal at Lamar IF after 3 years much of it is baked into roster bonuses like the Mahomes contract. Everyone is bringing up the Watson, Murray, and Wilson deals. I think it’s logical to ask why he deserves more guaranteed money than the best QB in the league.

Apparently they save ~$5mil in cap space. They certainly won’t acquire an All-Pro for 5mil. I guess they’re starting the Tank for Drake or Caleb early.

I don’t understand the Bobby Wagner release. It costs them cap space to release him this year, right?

Why?

The only hypothetical where I’d like this is if we sent Burns, Moton, and one/two of our 2nd round picks for #1. Then we select Bryce Young at #1 and Skoronski at #9. Sign a DE in free agency and we’re looking good for the next decade if we hit on those two picks.

It’s more likely a player would ask for more money to stay in a location they do not prefer. That may be what’s happening and would have the same effect.

ESPN graded YGM the 8th best edge defender in the NFL last year in run stop win rate.

Honestly, this could get interesting for the Panthers. He was born and raised in Charlotte. If he truly wants out of New York, we would seem a logical landing spot and maybe he'd be willing to sign at a discount to play in his hometown.

Jones's motivation to stay in New York:

I like him and would be happy if he was our selection at 9 or without giving up a crazy haul. I still like Young more though and hope his size scares those at the top.

I was more interested in others takes after looking at those stats, but if asked my preference… I’d rather have Trubisky for $8mil while we search for a young QB to build around than Carr for $30mil.

Derek Carr vs Mitch Trubisky stat comparison: https://stathead.com/football/pcm_finder.cgi?player_id2=TrubMi00&player_id1=CarrDe02&sum=0&request=1&utm_campaign=2023_01_wdgt_player_comparison&utm_source=pfr&utm_medium=sr_xsite&utm_id=CarrDe02 I'm not seeing a ~$20+ million difference