grimesgoat

Same concept. If a draft choice today is valued as a second, and next year the same pick is valued as a first, what would you call it? That pick is just sitting around gaining value - just like an investment. The gain could be volatile depending on how the underlying company (Rams) performs, but you should still see a gain in value. I understand present values and the time value of money. The question is, can you use two future firsts to invest in order to surpass Brian Burns' net (after cost) production over the next 8-10 years? I bet a good GM could.

I respectively disagree with Verge. That's is their value if you need to cash the assets right now. But they are an investment. They will appreciate over time. And right now we have a little time as this is a lost season.

I agree he's probably not the answer. And his college career is sub-par. But when he starts, he's not too bad. He's getting better - we should give him the rest of the season. I think he is a solid tank commander.

So draft Anderson or Myles in 2023. They will make an impact right away. Then we have 4 first rounders in 2024-2025 to move around and get our franchise QB. It provides tremendous flexibility to get the guy we want. What if Young starts falling due to size concerns. We would have quite a bit of ammunition between our seconds and 4 future firsts to make something happen (if he is our guy).

clarification - Burns was the 16th pick.

PJ walker has started 5 games in the NFL. Here are his numbers in those starts: 91-137 66% 979 yds. 5 TDs, 4 Ints, 5 Sks, 3-2 record. Here are the numbers for a certain all-everything QB in his first 5 games in the NFL (pie for the first to name him): 93-169 55% 1,142 yds., 3 Tds 12 Ints, 15 sks, 1-4 record. The point is not to suggest these two are destined for the same things (as some will surely assume right away). The point is that 5 games in is a little early to decide whether someone sucks and will always suck. The second guy improved significantly over the next several years. Chances are PJ isn't a long-term solution, but good lord we're 5 games in. There is a learning curve in this league.

I'd do the deal. We're probably picking 3rd. Stroud and Young will likely be gone. So instead of picking Levis/Hooker way too early, we grab Anderson or Murphy. Instant Burns replacement on a rookie deal. Then we can see if Corral is any good, keep developing PJ, and have a ton of ammo for a QB in 2024.

Good writeup. I'd include TMJ as a core piece. It was criminal how we failed to develop him until now. With the way the offensive line is playing, I'm coming around to Young in the first despite his size. Re-sign Bozeman and Foreman. Then get a big pass-catching TE with one of our seconds. Add C/G in the 4th and we'll be a playoff team in 2024 and a superb owl contender in 2025.

I'd love that tankathon draft right now.

Too early to tank. If we win 8 or 9 games, that means we've won 7 or 8 out of our last 12. That will be as good a run as about anyone in the NFC, meaning we should expect a competitive playoff game at home. We'd probably still lose and pick 19th, but with our core in place and the picks we now have, I think we'll be in position to continue to fine-tune. There will be a good QB in the 10-20 range and we will have ammunition to move up a few spots to get him. It will be nice to play meaningful games in December again and put off the draft talk to January or so. Just need SF to continue to lose.

Of course he's tradeable. I'm sure toomers will correct me if i'm wrong, but a team getting shaq will be on the hook for about a million this year. That's all. Next year's base salary is not guaranteed. If the team didn't want to pay that, they could cut him at no cost or re-work the contract. We're the one that's on the hook for all the dead money this year and next. Gotta be worth at least a 3rd for a contending team to rent a very good LB for about a mil.

I think our roster is pretty decent, but we need a mini-rebuild. I'm on board with trading Burns. I think the $16m hit next year plus the huge money he will cost after that will be difficult to maneuver with our cap situation. I think your compensation is a little light. I'd want a 2023 1st and 4th and a 2024 1st. We need to start getting Barno some reps and bring on the blitzes. I'd also move Donte Jackson for whoever would give me a 2nd. I'd target Higgins a ton over the next two weeks. Give the guy some stats, then trade him for a 6th. Same with Robbie Anderson. Only problem with Robbie is I think there will be a dead cap hit of around 10m this year that we will need to absorb. But with Robbie and Burns off the books, our cap situation looks pretty decent in 2023. Also there is addition by subtraction here and gives TMJ more reps. This gives us 1,1,2,2,3,5,6,6 to rebuild going into next year. Draft a QB (top 5), DE (20-30), TE (31-35), and CB, S, RB/WR, DT, G, T and we'll be in decent shape. Probably win 5-7 games. Then in 2024 we'll have all of our picks plus the extra 1st to really fine-tune things and a year's experience for all the newbies. Consistent winning will begin in 2024.

Nice win boys. Suicide watch for a few.

Not sure who is lighting up. Brissett was 18-34 for 147 with a QBR of 38.1. We know you hate the Panthers but let's have a little perspective.

My father hung me on a hook once, ONCE.

BC and Mays are your backup tackles. Bozeman/Elf and Mays are the primary backups. Jordan and Daley are your backup guards that (hopefully) will never play. Teck is decent and is a Rhule guy. Brown is toast. Haven't really watched Horton, but doesn't seem special. I think the final group is Ickey, BC, Elf, Corbett, Moton, Bozeman, Mayes, Daley, Tecklenburg. Erving is odd man out.

IMO, I think Zylstra is a lock. He's the only one of the 3 with a guaranteed salary. If we cut him, we still eat almost 1m in dead money. Saunders, Kirkwood, and Wright are battling for a possible roster spot, but more likely a practice squad spot.

Yea, I understand the salary ramifications. But he really isn't very good, and they can save 2m. With so many multi-positional players such as BC, Mays, Bozeman, Elf, etc, his flexibility really isn't as big a selling point. Unless he is some sort of important leader in the locker room, I think he's gone. I wondered why they re-configured Elflein's compensation and not Erving's. I think the reason is barring injury, he will be cut.

I don't think Erving is a lock. With Mays and BC versatility, I think Erving is out. Tecklenburg, Jordan, and possibly a waiver wire pickup will round out your other locks.

While I agree, there is film of Sam sucking, there is also film of Sam doing well. While he has not proven he can be a consistent winner over a full season, he has had flashes of pretty good QB play. I think he'll have a fairly long career as a back-up/spot starter starting this year. Bottom line - he is not worthless. We just need to extract what we can and move along.

Rams don't have a lot of cap space, but could eat 5m of the 20m owed Sam. They are in win now mode. Every game could be the difference in a wild card spot vs. home field. Gotta believe Darnold is far more likely to come off the bench and win a game or two than some dude named Woolford. Rams also have a lot of late round picks and a number of likely comp picks. Take a 6th and $5m for Sam and call it a day.

I don't get the gloom and doom on here. It's a long season and anything can happen. We have 9 home games. All home games are winnable. We have Giants, Saints, Atl, Sea on the road. We should compete in all. We are not the only team that gets injured. What if Stafford, Burrow, Jackson, or Brady get dinged up and have to miss some time. Suddenly the Rams, Bengals, Ravens, and Bucs look vulnerable. 5 of our first 7 are home games. If we are 4-3 or 5-2, maybe guys get confident. Momentum ensues. We upset some teams. Who knows? We came out of nowhere in 2015. Maybe it happens again. We have a competitive team. We should be able to hang around in most if not all games. Way too early to throw in the towel.