grimesgoat

If true, that would be much better than sending out a draft pick to get rid of Darnold's contract. Heck, you could immediately cut Garapollo (none of his salary is guaranteed) and be in the same place as if you never guaranteed Sam's 5th year option. Then you'd have about 50m in cap. Sign a LT, trade for Minshew, and draft your QB.

I'm one of the few people on here that think there is some value to Darnold. He probably will not take anyone to the SB, but he could still be a bridge to better times. In Darnold's last 8 games of 2019, he went 6-2. He was 163-267 (61%) 2,047 yds, 13 TDs (4 ints) and was sacked 15 times. That's actually pretty good. The next year, he was hurt and the Jets were horrifying. Then he comes to Carolina and he's saddled with a below average coach and OC and a historically bad offensive line. Point is - there is something there. Someone will believe he can get it out of Sam. He's not worth 18m, but no reason to just flush it. Unless he's some kind of huge douche, I don't get the desperation to "get him out of the building". Sign a LT. Draft a QB at 6. Start Sam for 8 games. Keep starting him if we are still competing for the playoffs. By the 11th or 12th game, turn the reins over to your draftee for some on-the-job training. It ain't that hard.

Our draft picks will be cheap. We only have one that will cost anything. The others will just replace guys already making the minimum. Also depends on how you structure the contract. Offer 2-year, 30m with a 14m signing bonus and 1m salary in year 1. He gets 15m in cash in year 1, but salary cap hit is only 8m. Year two, his salary is 15m. You can keep him and the total cap hit is 22m, or cut him and the dead cap hit is 7m and you save 15m.

The hope is they don't fall in love with any of the top 3 QBs. That way a trade down is risk-free because at least 1 of these guys will be around in the mid-first (if not all of them).

I think Hekker, Loannidas, and DJ extension are not accounted for. The Hekker and Loannidas signings will be negligible since they will replace other players that were already accounting around $1m. The DJ extension will be expensive, but with a large signing bonus, may actually increase the available cap.

Yep - that's me.

Absolutely. Take a year, gather assets, hire a new coach, then strike.

Those are words and definitions. We can talk grammar another day.

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I think you are being generous. I'd love to play poker with some of these folks. Looking to fold before the cards are even dealt.

Does anyone else find this a little creepy?

Not sure this works. He doesn't like working for Amazon/Google. He's looking for another company. People are recruiting him. I don't poo on any of them until I understand what they are offering, because I hate working for Amazon/Google and I need a new job.

If or when someone wants to interview you for a job, is your response going to be "sure i'll listen to what you have to say" or "*** you, you're wasting my time"?

I don't get this take. We don't know what the offer is. We don't know if the offer has been increased. We just know it was good enough for a face-to-face and nothing else. The only people getting played are the folks that are buying the media-generating drama.

I’m the same place. But I have DJ instead if Chinn.

I think everyone can learn from a mistake. Especially people that have amassed tremendous wealth. Can't imagine they'd be in the position they are in if they were incapable of learning.

I just don't see the follow up. If the genie is out of the lamp and it worked, then yeah - there would be leverage for coaches. But right now it looks to be a bust. An experiment gone horribly wrong and not to be repeated. Oh well. Agree to disagree. I'll reconsider if someone else gets a stupid deal like this.

How did hiring Rhule reset the coaching market. If anything, Rhule is a cautionary tale. If you overpay for a lemon, it doesn't mean everyone else will suddenly rush out and overpay for a lemon. And after seeing seattle get that haul for Wilson and Rodgers get 150m, I can't imagine what we have to pay for Watson will be significantly more insane.

Think of this as an investment. Best case - he makes us competitive and gets us in the playoff conversation for the next 5 years. or - we are not able to build anything of note in 3-4 years and decide to tear it all down again and start fresh. Dude will probably still be worth 3 first round picks at age 32. I think people see the 3 first rounders going out and forget we now have an asset that could probably be flipped for 3 first rounders in the future. We're not permanently losing the draft capital - just moving it into another asset (although realistically, that asset could get hurt and be worth much less at some point). Tepper is a hedge fund guy. This is probably how he is looking at this.

I thought Darnold, DJ, and 3 firsts and a future 2nd would be enough, with Watson and a 3rd coming back. But if another player is going out, I bet it will be Brown. Brown is seriously underrated around here and will be seriously missed. Plus the cap hits on the Texans will be miniscule as we will eat the dead cap bonus. Time for Nixon/Hoskins to step up. I think CMC goes out in a different trade, because we desperately need some draft assets. Burns is safe - Houston will pick one of the edge rushers at 3. Horn is safe - Houston will pick sauce at 6. Chinn is safe - Houston already has a very good ss on their roster. What they need is a DT. If Brown is added, maybe they will send another late pick back. They already have 10-11 picks (not including ours). I could see one of their 6ths coming back.

Making room for a cmc trade is my guess. CMC trade will cost 18m in dead cap.

here we go again. Every time i post, here comes toomers with the same old schtick. Still hanging around for some reason Russian-bot style. Regurgitating his greatest hits like it's some fresh take. I always try to couch my opinions and speculations as conjecture. What is hilarious to me is that you are convinced you know so much more than the experts in the building. "signing the two worst OL in the NFL". What is your criteria for this statement? What is your background? How many years of coaching NFL offensive lines are we talking here? How many hours per week do you watch tape of every lineman in the NFL? Are they good at pass blocking? Run blocking? What scheme do they fit? What schemes have they played in the past? Is the scheme where they had the most success the same scheme the coach and OC want to run? What other FAs might be available? How much money can we devote to the line this year? What does the draft look like this year? Will there be any help there? What other teams will need the same sort of guys we are looking for? what is the market like? This is the tip of the iceberg. There are probably hundreds of pieces of data they are looking at that I don't even know about. And why is flexibility a bad thing. You know guys get hurt right? This is tackle football. How often does an NFL offensive line remain intact for a full season with no injuries? If your assets are limited, flexibility is important. Only on the huddle is flexibility a negative. A guy that can play guard and slide over to center in a pinch takes up fewer roster spots. Your solution - take all the money paid to two flexible players and give them to 1 guy that can only play one spot. Pray he never gets hurt, even though he's running around at 300 lbs and is forcefully running into another and wrestling another 300-pound human being 45 times a game, 17 games a year. If he does get hurt, too bad, because there is no more money and no one else that knows how to play in that spot. The very thought that a guy that is capable of playing more than 1 offensive position can't be any good is some special stupid. And now you're putting decisions on which free agents to target and how much to pay them on the cap guy? seriously? come on dude. get it together. Bottom line, Rhule has certain types of guys he likes and wants on his team. But he doesn't know everyone in the NFL. He has to rely on his GM and support staff to find these guys and bring them in using whatever assets are available. I don't think Hurney was doing him any favors with his incompetence. I get a very different vibe from Fitterer.

That has crossed my mind. Tepper holds onto Rhule until the Watson thing shakes out. Why hire someone new if you don't know if the fancy new QB will like him. If Watson comes, Rhule is out. If Watson does not come, Rhule is tank commander.

It's one thing to say Rhule has total control, but how his desires are carried out makes all the difference. It's about creativity and getting the right price. Hurney was terrible at this, but Fitterer has demonstrated some talent in this regard. Recall, Fitterer came along in January 2021. This was after Teddy, CMC's extension, the Boston signing, the Okung trade, the KK contract change, and the Weatherly signing. I don't know who Roberts is. We don't know about Robby yet. He's still got two years left, although he is certainly off to a disappointing start. I didn't like it, but he was coming off a 1,000 yard season, so i can see the logic. They may have had some concerns about DJ costing too much going forward so they wanted to lock Anderson up and get Marshall in as well. We'll see. Erving and Elflein were decent signings. I don't see those as much of an overpay. You can't find vet FA guards for much less, and they are flexible. Had Sewell dropped one more spot, the line would have looked much different. I also think our OL coach and OC were terrible, which hurt the line play overall. They needed to be replaced. We'll see how they do this year with hopefully better coaching. I liked the Thomas re-sign. A guy with experience with his teammates and coaches that has shown some positive flashes in a non-TE focused offense. Let's see what he can do when the TEs are actually used as receivers in a real NFL offense. I think we'll find his contract is about where it should be. Not sure there were viable TE options available in FA this year. Plus we don't burn a comp pick signing someone else that might be slightly better or burn our 4th rounder on a rookie that will not be able to contribute anything for a year or two.