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20 hours ago, MHS831 said:

They should go back to these.  When they were losing, people mocked the "Errol Flynn" Buc on the side of the helmet--some said it made the team look gay because Errol Flynn was rumored to be--and that could have caused the brand switch--but this design with the flags avoids that issue. 

Interesting, considering Errol Flynn was famously a womanizer and sexual predator (google it) Not saying you are wrong in pointing out thats what people thought about him or the uniforms. Just saying that homophobic people say some wild nonsense. 

Same. He is one of my favorite prospects based on scouting reports, but not sure how reliable those are. Still need to see more from more prospects but he is an early fave right now after mason. Definitely preferred over carter. 

None hurt too much to lose. I’d like to see Shaq, Brady, mays, Corbett, tremble, Jackson, hekker,Jansen. Maybe that’s it. More than anything I want us to be disciplined about not over paying. 

I like him more than Abdul carter tbh. 

If that is how it plays out, I’m looking to trade down. Otherwise I’m going BPA. For me , BPA is Jeanty or Will Johnson. I think people are undervaluing RB, but even I wouldn’t take one in the first round, so I’d go with Will Johnson. Mykel Williams is in the conversation for me though. 

39 minutes ago, CRA said:

We were running it effectively early.  We just turned the ball over  

 1st drive - we averaged 5.2 yards per carry.  Hubbard had 10 carries on the day.  5 of those carries came on the opening drive.  Bryce fumble to end it. 

2nd drive 3 and out. 

3rd drive  - we averaged 5.3 yards per carry.  Bryce INT to end it. 

It was a pretty normal day rushing in reality the first half.   

then an early turnover to start the 2nd half really put us behind the 8 ball. 

we have 4 rush attempts the entire 2nd half.  3 came on the lone TD drive. 

Turnovers killed the rush attack.  I can handle the AT INT.  The other 2 were brutal. 

This is a fantastic post. 

1 hour ago, frankw said:

Without even the threat of a vaguely viable passing offense there is no run game in this league. Outside of that broken coverage play for a touchdown by Jalen Coker we had less than 150 passing yards.

Creating a thread to say you don't want to discuss the passer behind center that we traded up a haul to acquire but only want to talk about the run game like it's the fuging 1990's is why we can't productively discuss this offense anymore. If your passing offense is consistently not getting it done and the best you've looked all year long scoring output wise was with a 37 year old Andy Dalton you keep looking for the next QB.

... Sorry??  Dude, I don't know. I just created a topic. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.

I know everyone is flipping their shiznit about Bryce but I have no more thoughts to think about him and I don't really care what other people say at this point either.

But can we talk about how bad our run game is? As bad as our passing game is, our running game isn't much better, and honestly an argument could be made that it's worse.  Hubbard averages under 3.5 yards a carry over the last four games. we shelled out money to pay him and miles sanders and used a high draft pick on Brooks and paid a highly for two guards and we still suck at running the ball. 23rd in the league, but worse over the last month.  I don't think Bryce is the answer, but to be fair to him, I don't see many young quarterbacks winning a game when they get sacked six times and their their starting running back runs for 32 yards. 

How do we fix the run game? I personally don't want us to invest more in running backs but we won't be getting better with or without Bryce with this run game being what it is. I don't think the run game can go ignored this offseason but how do we make it better without throwing more resources at a problem when we are already spending a lot on that position.

One of the few bright spots on this team. Heck , might be the best offseason acquisition of the past two years. Which is speaks both to his talent and to the lack of talent we have brought in the last two years. 

Honestly, given where we are this season, why bother waiting? Just get it done sooner to heal more fully. I am absolutely against tanking but playing with an injury with nothing on the line is dumb. 

Been hoping for a speedy recovery for him. Obviously, no sense in rushing him given our record. But still…Legette got 8 targets yesterday and came down with only two catches. Gotta wonder what the outcome of the game would be if some of those targets went to Coker. 

Hate to be boring but I’d probably want to trade down and go BPA. We have so many holes and are still a ways from being a contender. No sense reaching for a position of need

8 hours ago, Doc Holiday said:

I wouldn’t say that, we are biased because we are Panthers fans. But that’s a stacked class, especially at linebacker. IMO Luke’s the best of those linebackers, but I’m also super biased in that assertion.

Biased? Most definitely. But I still think Luke was the best off ball linebacker almost every year he played. And at worst was maybe top three or four. Don’t know you could say that of many of the other names on the list though I like a lot of them…except manning. 

side note: looking at the list of potential players, it is bananas if he doesn’t get in. But Panthers are always getting screwed. 

Isn’t he listed as one of the 25 modern era players still in the running? The article says:

”The Pro Football Hall of Fame has its finalists for the seniors, coach and contributor part of the Class of 2025, but it still needs to decide the finalist for the modern-era players. The 25 players who are in the running to make the Hall of Fame are quarterback Eli Manning; running backs Fred Taylor and Ricky Watters; wide receivers Anquan Boldin, Torry Holt, Steve Smith Sr., Hines Ward and Reggie Wayne; tight end Antonio Gates; offensive linemen Willie Anderson, Jahri Evans, Richmond Webb, Steve Wisniewski and Marshal Yanda; defensive backs Eric Allen, Rodney Harrison, Earl Thomas and Darren Woodson; linebackers James Harrison, Luke Kuechly and Terrell Suggs; defensive linemen Jared Allen, Robert Mathis and Vince Wilfork; and kicker Adam Vinatieri.”

4 hours ago, chknwing said:

Carolina needs to score alot early, make the eagles goto the air.

This. The best way to stop the run is to compel them to pass.

I take it back

Thielen!!! Now RUN IT!

Hope he works out. I liked him. I always felt like he had potential but never quite got there.

5 hours ago, KSpan said:

Chuba is the only non-question mark running back on the team. Trading him for what tiny return he might bring would be dumb. 

This is true what you say

Solid, low stakes signing. I like it well enough. My questions about rub are

1. Does Chuba have any trade value? (Probs not, but more than sanders. Maybe we could get another 5th)

2. Does Tarik Cohen have a shot making the team given the new kickoff rules? I can’t imagine he’s still got it and doubt he makes the team, but with the new kickoff rules, maybe he has the inside track against some of these other backs. 
 

regardless, it will be a fun TC battle to watch (or would be if stepper let us watch)

32 Jackson powers Johnson (c)

46 Adonai Mitchell(wr)

72 Payton Willis (lb)

101 Ja’Tavion Sanders(te)

Not sure after that

2 minutes ago, Jacabee said:

This guy’s age was always going to make a second contract a sticking point. I guess the fifth year option gives you some leverage down the line with that? 

Is that worth paying to forfeit the strongest card you had to play in this draft which is the benefit of information between the first and the second. You had between now and tomorrow to evaluate the board and let someone else make an offer to overreach for someone they’re in love with. And you don’t have to take it! But at least field the deals. 
 

Saw a graphic posted earlier this week that 25 percent of first round receivers sign second contracts (no matter how much you love and root for them, believe it or not). That’s the gamble we paid for. 

This is the best post in this thread.