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It's tough I think the greater need is ILB but OLB is a more valuable position I'd love to upgrade OLB but I think Haynes is actually pretty underrated. He had 5 sacks last year coming off the bench. I think we roll with Burns and Luvu on the outside with Haynes as a back up edge rusher. Not great, but we could get solid production and improving the middle of the line will help. My bigger concern is the ILB where Shaq and Chinn are both pretty undersized. I like what I see from Campbell as a big body who can play close to the line of scrimmage but also has experience off ball.

Fug the NCAA. I hope Hubbard wins. Best of luck to him and the other plaintiff.

This is nonsense. He doesn’t know and is just trying to trend on Twitter because being an uninformed attention seeking douche is his brand.

I can't say I love or hate the hire. It's an assistant position and he's never coached before so I don't have high expectations, but it's also low risk. I will say there are a heck of a lot of former players I would rather have than the guy who got beat like a drum every time we played him but I wish him well and hope he succeeds here.

This is great. Does it come in audiobook?

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Thank you for posting an actual topic. Anyways, JC Horn - Agree. Loved what I saw last year and I'm a big fan of Wilks. I have have high hopes for this guy. If we get a little pressure on the quarterback, he'll be outstanding. T Marshall - Hero of preseason. Didn't show much during the season. Then again, not exactly in a great situation. I imagine he will improve and his production will as well. But hard to be other than disappointed when you had three running backs on the team with more receptions than he had. He might also be competing with the tight ends for catches more than our receivers typically have in years past B. Christensen - mid round pick finally got a chance and looked serviceable at a position of dire need. offers good depth this year. As you say, I wouldn't be surprised to see him start somewhere, just don't know where. High value T. Tremble - Big fan of this guy. I think a change of scheme could be huge for his production. Could be huge for Ian Thomas too for that matter. C Hubbard - I don't know about this guy. ok production at a position that is easy to have a lot of production in. Willl be tough for him to see the field behind Cmac and Foreman. But he is great depth and that ain't bad for this late in the draft D Nixon - Might get time because we are thin at DT. Would like to see more from him. D. Brown - He really ended up being great value for where we got him. Should be good depth. I still like this pick. I would love to see him start, but I think he is more of a backup S. Smith - doubtful we see too much from him this year unless injuries or he proves himself on special teams. I think there is too much competition at the skill positions T Fletcher - Pro Bowl P. Hoskins - like Nixon, I think he'll see decent time as a rotational guy. Solid late round pick. At the very least he's got a great Hogmolly name.

This is a good point. I went with RR, and I gotta admit, that could be some bias because I just like the guy. Of the two,(Ron and Cam) Cam is clearly the undisputed talent who covered a lot of shortcomings on this team. I might have to change my vote to Fox.

Almost put Jack Del Rio except he wasn't here very long. I didn't list an OC as, well, to be honest I don't have a lot of positive associations with this team and offense the best ones that come to my mind being 2015 and 1999 neither of which can be attributed to Henning, but he did do some solid things during his time, and his competition is pretty bad.

Every offseason, someone usually posts a topic which is a variant of what your all time Panthers team is. I have never seen anyone post your all time Panthers Coaching Staff. This may be an unpopular opinion, but I actually think this past year's Panthers team had a good amount of talent (I think Bitterer could be good), enough to maybe win closer to 9 games. The issue is really the coaching staff. So I wanted to ask, who is on your all time Panthers coaching staff. I don't know my full staff yet, but the guys I like are Head Coach: Riverboat Ron Rivera has the best win percentage of any coach we have had, is well respected in the community and is largely beloved by his plays. People have been knocking on the idea of "culture" but culture is really important and this team was known for having a great locker room culture during his tenure aided of course by some great veterans like TD, Luke, Cam, and Greg. But it starts with Ron. WR: Ricky Proehl was a player and a big part of both Super Bowl panther teams, first as a player and then as a coach. He helped a lot of players surpass their potential - I am thinking of Philly Brown's performance in the NFC Championship game and the Super Bowl. Basically had nothing to work with and made them part of a really potent offense. RB: Jim Skipper Who else could it be? He was here forever, survived multiple HC firings and gave us some amazing running backs through the years. A no brainer. Defensive Coordinator: Sean McDermott oversaw two an excellent defense here and is now a very successful head coach in Buffalo. DL: Eric Washington: Unlike Proehl, he had much more talent to work with, but getting pressure with a four man rush was a huge part of this teams success for much of its history. He had solid success in Chicago and and is kicking but in Buffalo with McDermott. LB: Sam Mills (duh)Was the heart of the team when it went to the playoffs in 1996, when it went to the Super Bowl in 2003. Might be the heart of the team still. I hope this team gets back to being at a place where it is deserving of his legacy. DB: Steve Wilks This might be some 2015 bias, but he made some good things happen with pretty mediocre players. Coached Thieves Row that had a lot of takeaways and made Mike Mitchell look good. Curious to hear what other coaches folks liked from past Panther teams. Happy Offeseason!

Fug...I'd take 'em now though....

Well, I mean yeah. A super bowl loss would tarnish the reputation of this upstanding quarterback, not like that moody, petulant Cam Newton... https://www.espn.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/14826436/documents-reveal-peyton-manning-accuser-called-sexual-assault-crisis-center-report-1996-incident

Mac Jones is the answer to the question "What if a hemorrhoid fugged a boat shoe?" Mac Jones looks like a Trump supporter after they've had 4 happy meals for breakfast instead of 3. Mac Jones looks like someone took the face of a giant, stupid baby and stuck it on the body...of a giant, stupid baby. Mac Jones looks like the Michelin Man who just decided to pop his collar. Now that's done, ready to focus on Arizona today.

Let me think. What scares the Cowboys...

OP written by Sarah Palin.

This. Cowboys might be tough but after that we have a very winnable stretch of games. If Hubbard is half decent, we should easily come out of the next three games 2-1 and the two after that are the giants and the falcons for goodness sake. I don't want to count chickens, but if we can't beat Atlanta and NYG without Him, we aren't playoff caliber team, so if he needs time, we need to give him time.

I know they ran a team-organized illegal bounty scheme where they paid their players to injure their opponents. Bounties were put on players including Steve Smith and Cam Newton. What else do I need to know?

That's tough. He's a good player and wish him a speedy recovery.

This GIF wins. It frigging wins. It wins. Speaking of wins. We play the Jets Sunday, September 12.

Oh honey...

I agree. 2 starters and 3-4 seeing out the end of their deals would be an excellent class. And I think is totally attainable for this group. We could have even more starters. We'll see!

I agree. it IS too early to judge. And that's the point. We have only a tiny sample size of their work and that small sample is excellent. So now we get to be at this point where all we have is hope for what they can do and how good they will be. Some will flame out. More often than not, that's what happens. But right now, we have no reason to think that. They've been great. So feel free wait as long as you want to judge how good a player was half a decade ago if that's fun for you. What's fun for me is thinking about how much potential this team has and sharing that with people who love this team too.

That's right! I have extremely high expectations for the first defensive player taken in the draft. And thus far, he has merely met them with a few bumps along the way. But it is so early in his career so there is lots of time to learn. I look forward to a long promising career from that talented young man!

I have been reading this board since it started in 2003. The best place to find panthers news and insight. I don't often post as I don't often feel that I have insightful things to say (that's called self-regard by the way, maybe one or two of you should try it) After 17 years of reading this board, following the Panthers, and reading the, let's face, frankly moronic garbage most of you post, this cicada is ready to emerge from its cocoon to awkwardly step over the shockingly low bar that is the standards of discourse around here and share a modicum of perspective to the larvae inching across the Huddle excreting their under-informed, over-indulged, doomsday-predicting detritus. My perspective is this: It is the pre-season - the most hopeful time of the year. The time of year when football is back, and yet, has not even begun. We have the whole, beautiful season of jubilant expectation not yet tainted by the cankered blossom of reality. More to the point, this is the most exciting draft class I can remember. Nearly every single draft pick has flashed promise. I mean, look at them. Jaycee Horn - Frankly the pick I am most disappointed by, and I am really not that disappointed. He is in all likelihood an above-average starter from day one and has a chance to be a perennial pro-bowler. Swipe right on this dude. Terrace Marshall - Exceeded expectations and expectations were pretty high. He is our 3rd wr which practically makes him a starter day 1. Two draft picks. Two quality starters. Tough to top that. Brady Christiansen - Played well through two preseason games. Lots are clamoring for him to start day 1. That would be three day 1 starters from our first three picks. Pretty amazing. More likely, he will settle into a starting roll later in the season. Right now, his floor looks like a high quality depth. I'll take it. Tommy Tremble - Upgrades our blocking at the position immediately and has really flashed some ability as a receiver. Will get lots fo playing time. Also, has a name that sounds like an abandoned character that was planned to be the friend of Biff from Back to the Future. And he has only the second best name in this crop which brings us too... Chuba Hubbard - Played very well through two preseason games. Will get tons of playing time spelling CMC and keeping him fresh. That's five picks and five hits so far. Daviyon Nixon - played well, flashed athleticism and provides quality depth in the middle of the line. Not bad for a rookie DT Keith Taylor - played well in camp and showed some promise before his injury. even if he doesn't pan out, we are talking about a rookie 5th rounder. Deonte Brown - Apparently a mountain got lost on its way to Appalachia and wandered onto our practice field. Turns out he can play. People are actually talking about him as a potential starter. Personally, I doubt it, but having quality depth from the 193rd pick in the draft when he is a rookie is outstanding. Shi Smith - Let's face it: Smith would be a starter on like, 75% of panthers teams in the past. Maybe you don't remember the days of Keary Colbert or Dwayne Jarrett. But I do. And those were 2nd rounders. The value we got at this pick is amazing! Thomas Fletcher- I have nothing to say about this man. But he is a Panther and will forever be my brother. Great pick. 10/10. Phil Hoskins - Seems to be outplaying Daviyon Nixon, who many projected going much earlier than we got him. Hoskins has been excellent in the action he has seen and will provide excellent depth. With God as my witness, I will appreciated his manifestly above-average draft class! We could not ask for a more promising draft class at this point. Spout whatever negative bullspit you want, but I am here to tell you that this is a great class. Enjoy it. It doesn't happen very often. I remember Eric Shelton for God's sake. And if you don't know who Eric Shelton is, ask your grandfather how he developed that twitch. So here is my advise: Enjoy the ever-present now. Build your castles in the sky. And don't you ever dis a wide receiver named Smith again.