heel31ok

5 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

Ickey’s such dogshit lol he ain’t coming back from anything 

Yeah he'll be back.

8 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

This fan base won't survive another year of Young.

But we still are getting another year with him.

58 minutes ago, ncfan said:

Ickey sure thinks they are.

I think between the two Ickey can come back from this.

3 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

someone that's terribly undersized but "smart"  

Smart enough to throw out of bounds on 4th down.

1 minute ago, methodtoll said:

And once again, overlook the fact that Young isn't the only contributing factor to us losing... But go on

It's not about losing its about the cost we paid to lose.

6 minutes ago, methodtoll said:

Still here... Y'all Bryce haters certainly were quiet last week

Because nothing left to be said.

9 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

I’m here to admit it. Bryce Young is a bust. It’s not even a debate. He doesn’t have it at this level. Now the sad part….

Because we invested so much in a guy that isn’t going to be THE guy, we’re probably 5-10 years away from having a winning football team again. 

Here’s another thing…it also means our next coach most likely won’t be successful. So in theory, we’re probably looking at a lame duck coach as soon as he signs the papers. 

Buckle up folks, it’s going to be a long journey. The last time I felt like this was when we brought in Teddy Bridgewater.

I said not drafting Justin Fields set this franchise back 10 years. I wasn’t wrong. 

Or parsons and dare I say skoronski

And walking to the podium with the #1 pick at the upcoming draft

with all our other picks intact and

DJ still on the team.

56 minutes ago, pdub0702 said:

Higher drafts picks ,eager coaches / GMs ready to make mark

Lol...that ain't gonna help us.

3 minutes ago, pdub0702 said:

It’s simple. We suck. Good news..the NFL is designed for us to have a chance to be good again relatively quick 

How?

On 12/11/2023 at 8:27 PM, Shocker said:

This from a guy hyping Sheduer Sanders for heisman last season.  No one knows what Bryce can be in this league right now.  

I'm no one.

1 hour ago, bigjohn said:

No need to do anything about QB next year. We need to build for the long haul.

Next year gonna be a big bag of suck as well.

Keep Brown and Luvu if at all possible. Lean on our defense and run game.

Through the draft and free agency, focus on WR and OLine. Don’t trade away any draft capital.

If Bryce sucks again next year, draft a QB or sign one in free agency— after next season. We need to build the core best we can, so when we are ready to grab that QB in the first round, he has something to work with.

 

correct

I wouldn't be in this situation...

On 12/7/2023 at 11:47 PM, Future of the Funchise said:

No way we bring him in. Tepper wanted him gone while he was a minority owner in Pitt. If we did I would lose my poo. Sign me up right now for all the reasons you listed. We need someone who can come in under him and be to Bryce what Norv Turner was to Troy Aikman.

Lol...so we need an Aikman as well.

Just now, Selltheteamtepper said:

Disagree, we would have lost a year of development, the reset would have needed to wait another year and you just don’t get much time in the NFL. We should have just drafted a kid who’s pro ready with legitimate NFL tools and developed him. In an alternate universe where we just don’t make any trades the past 2 years we could have Levis, CMC, Moore, Thielen, and be in a position to draft MHJ and have the most explosive offense in the league for the next 5 years. 

the qb's in this draft at 1 are much better , further developed walking in the door. Combine that with keeping Moore and our picks.

23 hours ago, FugginPoo said:

Now do this for Trevor Lawrence rookie season and realize how dumb you sound to non-reactionaries 

The comparison is more dumber.lol.

37 minutes ago, restNChrist said:

I say it every year and every year it proves true.  We are only as good as our O-line.  I know we need receivers and corners and a whole lot of things… but if we truly want to know if we have something with Bryce we must use FA and draft to build up the line first.  
 

The only problem with this strategy is I don’t trust our front office to scout the right O linemen.  Ex. Ickey!  

What a novel idea.The geniuses will never go for such an antiquated approach.Quick question.So possibly it could have helped us to take best Olineman in draft at #9 and then the best qb or multiple picks in a trade this coming draft? 

23 hours ago, jimfear said:

We should’ve held at 9 and waited until this year when the draft features multiple top QB prospects. 

Lol...yes.laughing and crying at same time.How many here were just complete a holes to those who knew this was the play from the beginning? 

2 minutes ago, BigDog said:

Why the fu ck do you call 2 pass plays in a row? When you only needed 1 yard and had been running the ball great, averaging 3 to 4 yards a play.

Akin to the beast mode slant.

On 11/29/2023 at 7:55 AM, BY9Franchise said:

Okay captain obvious seeing as human cloning is illegal.

Its comparison deficit syndrome.

6 hours ago, BY9Franchise said:

Crappy first season you can't really call him a bust at this point... a disappointment no doubt but given what he's working with meh..... the following quartbacks all had as bad or worse rookie years Aikman,Manning X 2, Elway,Lawrence,Goff,Smith,McNabb just to name a few...

 

As much as the clown posse wants to write him off it's far too early.

He is none of those qbs ...

1 hour ago, fjblair said:

Nice guy or not he is a colossal bust. 

Not colossal...lol

Just regular.

17 minutes ago, Brent Gregory said:

He seems to fit the narrative perfectly for one of those pompous thin skinned owners who could move when he's burned all the bridges with Charlotte and the surrounding communities. Actually he's well on his way to destroying a fan base as I type this. 3 more years of this and  they'll be lucky to get 35k to show up for a game. In the meantime he'll probably start the we need a new stadium to compete crap as well. I just get a strong feeling this relationship is going to end with irreconcilable differences. 

That's my concern as well.

8 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

And he might be on the bench during that time period

It's just a sad situation.

4 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

I know the dysfunction is evident across the board, and Bryce is not responsible for that, nor is he responsible for the position he has been put in.  But it just hit me - when is the last time a rookie starting QB got his first year HC fired in year one?  I don't recall any if it's happened.

And that led me to think further...  I mentioned in another thread, despite having a shitty QB hand dealt to him in Indy, starting with Luck retiring, Reich showed well for himself overall there.  I said at worst, he is likely an average HC, so what happened here is a clear sign of how dysfunctional out organization currently is - and yes, it all falls on Tepper - but, I was thinking, if Reich and McCown couldn't figure out how to utilize Bryce with their vast experience as pro QBs, then we must prepare ourselves for the possibility that maybe he isn't salvageable.  And also, his chances of success just practically were chopped in half 11 games into his career, because it is proven that new staffs/FOs typically don't give much runway to QBs (and players in general) they inherit.  They aren't beholden to them, so if they're clearly not part of the solution, they are quick to be put on the chopping block.  Furthermore, as many, including myself, have been saying, we are now The New Old Browns...  look back at their QB carousel over the years and look at how much turnover there was between QBs and HCs.  It's not coincidental...  their ownership wanted to win and win now, so they went through top pick after top pick after stop gap after stop gap after HC after HC.  The synergy is there - if I'm a new HC and I didn't draft this guy, hr is on a short leash, and if he doesn't perform, my chance to really put my stamp on things is by bringing in my own guy.  If he fails, I'm fired and then he'll be traded or released in a year or so too.  We saw it time and again...  that's where we are now.

And so, that being said, I really got to thinking why was it so difficult, if Bryce was touted for having these otherworldly traits, to get the offense looking even just functional? And I thought back to guys like Canty, Olsen, etc., who have brought up how the offense is really hindered by our inability to get under center at all.  So, what if Bryce just really can't do it?  That would explain why Reich didn't want him, but tried to make the best of it.  It would explain why the offense, no matter what adjustments they tried to make, just couldn't find its footing.  It's why the offense didn't look much different between Reich's and Brown's versions.  Perhaps that's why they even had Dalton sub in earlier in the year for the sneak because it was whispered at the time that Bryce couldn't even take the snaps under center to do that.  And if that is the case, man oh man,  this is really just the beginning...

I said earlier in the year, we were likely at the very bottom of a very deep hole and it was going to take a long time to dig out of it as a result of the capital traded and the amount of flubs we made with personnel, but boy, it just keeps getting deeper.

Looking at the situation as a whole a change may be the only chance Young has to be successful.I think it's a Longshot but it's a shot just the  same.Hoping he proves my opinion of him wrong.

5 minutes ago, The Lobo said:

Harbaugh 

Not a fan but my brilliant son says he would be good.