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Hurney wanted us to trade up for Herbert, which was in line with what our scouts wanted. Rhule and Tepper said no, ultimately these types of disagreements led to Hurney's ouster a couple years later and Fitts being hired. I never in a million fuging years thought I'd see the day where I'd say this, but I truly miss Hurney. It's gotten that bad that what looked like the worst mistake of Tepper's career as owner (keeping Hurney) may honestly be his least bad move so far. At the very least Hurney NEVER missed on a 1st round pick, the worst probably being Otah who was a stud just had injuries derail his career. Meanwhile DG and Fitts can't pick a halfway decent player in the 1st round to save their lives.

our best way out of the tepper death grip may be for him to move the team and we get a different franchise/owner. will take time and we'll have a few years without a team which'll suck but it would be better not having a team at all than having the current Tepper Panthers

being wealthy enough afford an NFL team and then fortunate enough to be chosen to be an owner by the rest of the good ole boys club is all he had to do to make that $ fuging douche

Navarro was the hero this city needed. Real bummer that the NFL squashed his bid for Tepper

There was 1 that drew a penalty that should've been PI but was for some reason just a 5 yard illegal contact, but yeah only 1 pass over 20 yards is egregiously terrible in this modern passing league.

There isn't any convincing argument that the Bills are up there with the Chiefs, Eagles, 49ers. They beat the Dolphins at home, it's a divisional game, the score really doesn't mean a whole lot. Bills are in that 2nd tier of teams that could maybe contend but are by no means "favorites." Cowboys, Ravens, Lions, Dolphins, Seahawks, Jags, Bills all in that 2nd tier of maybe contenders. Chiefs are sole AFC favorites with their kryptonite Bengals struggling and 49ers/Eagles are clear NFC favorites.

lol Bills are in no way SB favorites, they lost to Zach Wilson and consistently choke in the playoffs.

Vegas and both LA teams are worse, unsurprisingly based on locations, but all 4 of those teams you mentioned have been in the league significantly longer than the Panthers and over time have built up fanbases consisting of lifelong fans and people who have grown up with those teams over decades. NC is a transplant area which hurts considerably and also a pretty young team so there are much less people who can afford season tickets that grew up rooting for the team. In 20-30 years it will be more equalized, assuming we still have a team here...

lol fug off, the team has been trash since Tepper bought them the fans don't owe him or the team anything, team needs to earn it with the product on the field. BoA was electric with Cam and Luke in their primes 2013-2015, 2017

The sad thing is there's a strong chance he gets hired somewhere else as HC while we stick with Frank

Would be way better than this and not hamstring our future by giving up picks but the best play would've been to do what the Colts/Texans did and hire young exciting HC NOT a retread and take one of those 2 QBs

Williams no, he's just their first overall pick but all the others yes

Seriously they could get Caleb and Marvin Jr that would be outrageous. The thing is the Bears suck ass too so they could get both those guys and ruin them just like we would.

whatever it costs it's that much more than it's worth. TEpper won't give a poo about a billboard, he knows he sucks but he'll just keep laughing all the way to the bank as he makes his millions from revenue sharing every year. https://www.statista.com/statistics/271939/operating-income-of-the-carolina-panthers/

He won't sell ever unless forced out. The Panthers could go 0-17 every year for 10 straight years and he wouldn't sell or have any reason to. Honestly. He makes a ton of money off owning a team every year by profit sharing alone, other owners love owners like him so they can beat up on us every year. It's the sad reality. The hope is really just the slim chance that he has done or will do something really really stupid/racist/sexist/etc. and gets forced out because of it.

Now that Snyder is out yes 100%. Worst owner across all sports not just NFL

All things considered this was a great game defensively. Scored our only TD, allowed just 14 to a top offense, held Jefferson to 85 yards after he went for 149+ in each of his first 3 games. And all of that is with Shaq and Horn out, Luvu banged up, Donte banged up, etc. The Jamison kid who I had never heard of really has been great. Chinn looking great again too and the pass rush coming around with YGM showing some more promise. Embarrassing showing by the offense and HC yet again but the D with a great bounceback game after the ugly showing vs Seattle

Uhhh our D has allowed just 14 points against a top offense and scored our only TD...

if we somehow luck our way into a TD I am 99% sure we won't get the 2 point conversion. then they'll just get a first down and run the clock out on us

genius play call on 3rd down!

divorcing nicole

This is really what makes the way this season is going so brutal. Reich and company aren't going anywhere after 1 season, Bryce could potentially improve but in the same system and the way he's played so far it's not really something to get excited about. No 1st round pick (that will almost certainly be top 5). We don't have a ton of cap space and even if we did do we trust the team to utilize it wisely? There's just nothing I can think of to get excited about. 2025 maybe with a new coaching staff but not next year

yeah we haven't really had any true garbage time yet. we'll get some vs. Miami and probably Detroit so he should be able to pile up some yards against prevent defenses in the 2nd halves of blowouts

I mean Caleb is no guarantee and Stroud has looked good and Richardson promising. I get taking a QB this year but it appears we may have taken the wrong one.

we should trade Bryce and Burns for our 1st back from Chicago