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KB jersey still hanging in my closet... Oof

It's not about being bad or any external pressure on Rhule. If the rookie QB looks ready (which is likely for Fields/Wilson, maybe not as much Lance) then the HC is going to be under a lot of internal pressure (not internal within the org. but in his own head) to start the guy if he's ready and let him rock and roll. Plus the chances that the rookie QB is better than Teddy is going to be close to 100% if he's not a bust. We also don't know Rhule's philosophy on playing a young QB early. If it's anything like his philosophy on playing young defenders early, then that QB would be guaranteed to start day 1. If he thinks that a young QB should sit early on even if he's the best QB on the roster then maybe he'd hold to that, but we've seen before many coaches who say that and then wind up starting the rookie. I really hope we'd play it slow with a rookie we draft but I think it's unlikely.

The play of the rookie and fans/media will pressure him. Unless it's very clear that he's not even close to being ready all of camp and preseason, there will be a ton of pressure for a highly drafted QB to start ASAP. We see it all the time.

Maybe. I don't think it'd be "easy." It's possible but it's a decent sized gamble. There are still very few QBs who have played at a high level into their late 30s or early 40s, and most of them were QBs who had remained very healthy for the most part and didn't take a ton of hits, like Brady and Brees. Stafford has taken a ton of hits and had a ton of nagging, minor injuries. Those things add up and can definitely slow down a career sooner rather than later.

I don't want this to happen but I suspect that if we do draft a QB (which seems likely) the staff will be under pressure for him to start sooner and after a good camp we'll give up a mid round pick in 2022 for another team to take Teddy's contract off our hands (like the Jets did with him after drafting Darnold). And if we do trade for either Watson or Stafford, Teddy is 100% gone, so I predict he'll be traded. But it's still very likely as well that he'll be day 1 starter while a rookie rides the pine (what I want to happen).

If we want Lance and have a shot to get him (maybe even with a trade back?) I think it would be worth the risk, but you'd have to sit him for at least a year, maybe 2, behind Teddy for him to develop in time. Could be a tremendous move in the long run, but we'd have to put up with watching Teddy start for another year+... Give me a trade up for Fields if possible.

Your title isn't very accurate though as the "new" owner and "new" coach were here when we acquired our current QB...

Pretty much my thoughts, though if the price is as high as it should be for Watson I'd prefer taking a shot in the draft before trading a ton for him. Stafford would get this team to the playoffs pretty quickly and I think we'd consistently be in that mix. But would he be enough to get us over the ultimate hurdle of winning a Super Bowl, before he starts declining or retires due to age? That's what I'm not so sure about and the reason I'd much rather try for a longer term option. If we hit on a rookie this year or trade for Watson, the position would be more or less set for 10-15 years maybe. Stafford could start declining at 35, 36, etc. who knows?

He turns 33 in like 2 and a half weeks so he's even older than the number most here are operating off of... I really do like Stafford, but with his age and inconsistencies I just don't think he makes sense for this team right now at all. Much better than Teddy, but I don't think we're winning a SB with Stafford and then we still have the same problem once Stafford's gone. I much prefer a rookie or if the price is right Watson, but if we somehow got rid of Teddy and picked up Stafford without losing much to get him I'd be okay with the move. I really do want to see this team have a long term plan in place for the QB position.

I’d trade Moore for 2 first rounders and then package those and #8 plus a 2022 2nd or 3rd round pick for Watson.

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Pretty much what I posted in the other thread. Of course this is just speculation from an (informed) outside observer so he may actually have a concussion and not get cleared for Sunday, but I do think Dr. Chao's explanation is the most plausible scenario and it lines up with the reports we've been getting so far and what the video of the hit and reaction from Mahomes showed. Definitely hope that this is the case for Mahomes' sake and for fans who want to watch a great AFCCG on Sunday.

I thought Dorsey was absolute trash here, more just a friend to Cam than an actual coach. But it's interesting that he landed in Buffalo and has theoretically been involved in Allen's development the last 2 years (unless it really is just Daboll who deserves the credit...?)

New HC there; may not have wanted to keep Ryan there and bring in his own guy

I really like Stafford, but at 33 years old I don't think he fits super well with the makeup of this team going forward.

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Definitely a good point. If Mahomes has a very light headache that he notices but doesn't really affect him, that would still be enough to keep him out this game and there's no chance he's telling the doctors about that.

The Chiefs' medical team has nothing to do with it, it's all going to come down to an independent neurological consultant who has every incentive to be as careful and thorough as possible and will have no incentive to clear Mahomes if he shouldn't be cleared.

Yes but I also think it goes to show that we just don't have many highly paid players on the team since we got rid of a bunch of players last offseason and are just starting a rebuild and haven't had to pay young stars yet. Burns, Moore, maybe Donte, sooner or later Brown/Chinn, etc. will all jump to the top in the next several years.

Ehh not really. He was solid for sure and helped them make the playoffs but that D is great and they are well coached. Running game picked it up late in the year too. He was a piece of the puzzle for them but hardly carried them on his back at all.

More likely we'd have to give up a 4th or 5th (or more) and Teddy for a conditional 7th or something. He has negative value for any team acquiring him.

Shaq is a solid contributor. Overpaid, but he really is not bad at all for us on the field.

Spotrac wasn't clear on any difference between a cut and trade but overthecap suggests that we'd get considerably more cap space if we traded TB: https://overthecap.com/player/teddy-bridgewater/2971/ According to this, releasing him would be $20M dead money this year and $5M dead money next year. Trading him would be $10M dead money this year and $5M dead money next year. Also, it says if we trade him post-June 1 it would be just $5M dead money this year and $5M dead money next year...

If we have a highly drafted rookie sitting behind him it’ll be a 10

Even if it was an actual concussion why is 7 days so unreasonable of a time for him to return? This 19 days keeps getting brought up but it’s a quite misleading stat. What’s the average time in the concussion protocol for first time concussions? My guess is it’s closer to 7 days. And if he’s passing all the tests this early, as has been reported, then he’s already much further along than most players who were in the protocol for longer than 7 days. All signs point to him playing. Of course it’s no guarantee, and it’s possible he could wake up Saturday morning with headaches and dizziness, but based on the info we have so far that seems quite unlikely.