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Sorry but these jerseys are terrible. Even worse going against a team wearing white.

A lot more goes into it. Goff and Ryan have both had stacked offenses with some elite offensive coaching at times (Goff with McVay and Ryan with Shanahan, albeit briefly). Stafford has never had much help outside of Calvin Johnson. Going by the eye test I think it’s fair to say Goff on that contract is not a positive asset to have on your team right now. Stafford and Ryan are comparable in talent with Ryan being 3 years older and Stafford’s current contract being a bargain compared to Ryan’s. I highly doubt any team would consider 2 firsts for Ryan. Odds are we’ll never find out as they’ll just keep him.

Maybe 1 mid-late first but I’d say he’s comparable on the field to Stafford and 3 years older which I think would have a considerable impact on his value. Rams gave up 2 firsts but part of that price was to get rid of Goff’s contract.

If it’s near vet min. with incentives I don’t see any downside...

Also, we can draft any of the top 3 QBs (obv. excluding Lawrence) and still see Teddy start this year. This is actually my preference.

I have a new era hat that's all blue and I swear I can't tell the difference between my hat color and the blue in any of the Nike jerseys I have... Or pro line jerseys for that matter. Maybe it's my eyes, or maybe it's just some new era stuff? I can see the difference in your picture for sure though.

Pretty sure that's not allowed by the CBA but that would be fuging hilarious if we pulled that off. Watson for a 3rd round pick and $250M cash. Rest of the league then shits their pants

I'd have no problem with 3 1sts and McCaffrey, that's fair value I think. But I do fear that Houston will demand more, and be able to get more, for him.

Don't sleep on Fields or Lance. We have plenty of options this year and there's no chance we're going to be in play for Howell.

Every report out there suggests Tepper is going all in on getting a franchise QB, with Watson being the main target for our front office. You can be in denial all you want, and I understand it as I don't agree with crippling the franchise just to go all in on a QB either, but the information that is out there supports the idea that we'll be making competitive offers for Watson. There's no reason to think we won't be players at this point. Does that mean we'll be the ones who get him if he is traded? Absolutely not, there are plenty of factors at play, and it could wind up being a huge bidding war with a ton of egos in the mix and any outcome being possible. But to dismiss it at face value like you've been doing based on some random notion that we are unable to offer enough for him to compete with other offers is completely absurd.

Reading comprehension, my friend... He's basing us making a competitive offer based on how much we offered for Stafford and our aggressive pursuit of a QB, which is very fair reasoning. As to who's in a better position to offer a lot? Frankly, I don't think that comes into play. It just depends on how much we are willing to offer and how much other teams are willing to offer. We have plenty of assets to get it done if we want to be that aggressive. Personally, I don't want to give up too much and hope we don't but I don't see any reason to doubt based on recent developments that we'd be a key player in the discussions if Watson does become available. If Tepper's aggression in wanting an elite franchise QB is as strong as many think it is, we may not hesitate to offer a ton of draft assets in addition to some combo of Burns/McCaffrey/Moore/Chinn/Brown, etc.

How is that reasoning weak?

Obviously, but there's definitely a cutoff point where the value won't make sense. 3 first round picks, Burns and another piece is too much in my eyes, if that's what they want. Burns is worth 2 first round picks easily. 5 first round picks (1 of which is guaranteed to be top 10 in a loaded QB draft) plus more just doesn't make any sense for us, even to get Watson. I'd much rather take a shot on a rookie QB and have him on that cheap contract plus keep the rest of our pieces to build around that guy if the price for Watson is that high.

Rough loss after being up 2-0 but I'm not too concerned. Huberdeau had some incredible individual plays for 2 of their goals, Ned let in a really soft one and their goalie played really well. I don't put much stock into OT/shootout outcomes once you get to that point because there is never a time in the playoffs where that type of play happens (yes you could have 3-3 with 2 penalties on each team, but that's incredibly rare). The team played really hard and solid despite some guys still being a little rusty (looking at you Slavin). And Florida is definitely a good team. Things could change but it's looking like a 3 horse race between us, FL and TB for the division lead. Can't wait until Mrazek is back too.

I get why people have fallen in love with Wilson lately but I really think Fields will wind up being considerably better and a true franchise QB. I'd be thrilled if we can land him without giving up too much in a potential trade up.

Why is McCaffrey even on this? He wasn't even drafted until 2017...

Verge's source is mostly a friend of his who is a pretty high up scout I believe for an AFC franchise and has generally been in the know. That doesn't mean that they're right about Watson as even those that are really connected in the league probably don't know, but Verge has a pretty spot on track record especially with draft related stuff the last several years. I take him much more seriously on draft stuff than I do any other local or national NFL media honestly.

I think it's fair to distinguish between free agency and a trade...

Ehh, I'm not so sure about that. He's begun proving himself as a more than capable route runner and obviously is a huge threat down the field. Imagine him going to KC or GB or somewhere they could feature him. I could see him easily putting up 1200-1500 yards as a starter in those offense with QBs who can get him the ball. GB actually makes a ton of sense, though not sure what their cap situation looks like.

By "defensive starter" what are we talking here? Shaq and Donte would certainly fit that bill I would think, but my guess (fear) is Houston is thinking more along the lines of Chinn, Brown, Burns, etc.

Aho is one of the best centers in the entire league. Necas has a LONG way to go before being on Aho's level if he ever gets there. Love what I've seen from him so far but he definitely has a bunch of development to do on both ends of the ice and strength to build. Great player but let's not get ahead of ourselves with him. Also the transition from wing to center is significant and it's yet to be seen if he can handle that. I'm extremely optimistic and think he can be our long term #2 center in the mold of a David Krejci type, but I hesitate to say he'll get to the level of being a #1B center like Malkin is in Pittsburgh.

I'd be shocked if there aren't atleast some fans allowed at Canes games by then.

I'm starting to think Crowder will be significantly cheaper... Samuel was much better and is young and on the upswing while Crowder is the opposite. Could be a decent vet. replacement for relatively cheap if we can't keep Samuel.

Also, that tweeter account and the initial post on this thread are two different things. The initial post website is what quoted Person. That tweet didn’t quote anyone it just threw out there randomly with no source attached that we’re high on Jones — the opposite of Person’s quote.

It’s fake as in nothing posted on it has any bearing on reality. Just a bunch of random crap. There were a couple threads on here a few months back posting tweets from that account with some kind of big news that wound up being just blatantly wrong.