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watch us win it all and Rhule come out of the woodwork like "I built that just needed 1 more year and 1st overall QB"

LaCanfora thought we were getting Watson, I don’t put much stock into his “reports.”

Good luck with that

Lol good luck with that. There's a damn good chance we don't see anyone come close to Mahomes' level in the next 2-3+ decades.

Yeah but really just because of a fluky terrible division, many here wanted to tank and even with that run and nearly winning this trash division was anyone really truly excited about a potential playoff berth? We'd have just gotten smoked round 1 and probably wouldn't have been able to trade up to 1st overall and still wouldn't have a QB. And we may have kept Wilks which would've been a setback and not very exciting.

I do that in a heartbeat. Arizona doesn't even consider it though.

Team stat, 22 guys on the field This isn't tennis or boxing lol QBs head to head means absolutely nothing

Brady didn't do crap in the early 2000s except game manage for an elite team who was oh by the way cheating the entire time. Brady's later career statistical dominance came ultimately in the same offensive era as Mahomes has been in and Mahomes has surpassed Brady easily. Any time Brady had poorer weapons he struggled, whereas Mahomes last year had Kelce and no one else and proceeded to be the only QB in NFL history to win MVP, throw for the most yards and TDs and win the Super bowl and SBMVP all in the same year. I've watched both players extensively. Mahomes is just flat out a better player than Brady ever was. Not meant to be a knock on Brady either, Mahomes is a step above any QB to ever play the game.

Obviously we all have playoff hopes and I'm pretty confident we'll win the division over the Aints and Falcons. That being said, there's of course a chance that there are some growing pains with the staff, roster and rookie QB and we wind up struggling a bit early on. The past 3 years come November/December we've pretty much been out of it and had nothing to root for or be excited about later in the season except for the draft. And then came all the bickering about tanking/not tanking. This year even if we struggle early and playoffs look out of reach later in the season it's still going to be significantly more fun to continue watching our rookie QB's development later in the year. I'm probably not the only one who turned plenty of games off these past few years or went fishing or whatever instead of watching that crappy team. I can't see myself not enjoying every game this year as we get to watch and follow along a young exciting rookie QB and his development, even if he and the team do struggle early the upside and room to grow will be there. Something we haven't had at QB literally since Cam was a rookie.

Yeah we really are a great situation for a 1st overall QB. We had 7 wins last year despite atrocious coaching and cleaned house and hired an extremely experienced and well respected staff. Not a perfect team outside of QB by any means (few holes on D and of course offensive receiving weapons) but nowhere near the absolute dumpster fire most teams picking top 2-3 are.

Mahomes is already better than Brady, he could retire tomorrow and be better. Longevity is literally the only area Brady is better than Mahomes (for now).

lol reading through these last few pages, man people are turning on Young and gotta love the short jokes. Some of you are almost as clever as Will ripping on Carlton's height. I think it was fairly obvious his combine weight was an asterisk, I'm also pretty sure the Panthers have more info than just combine/pro day weigh-ins. He's small, not just in height but in frame/weight too. That's reality and a part of the equation. I still think he's neck and neck with Stroud for best QB prospect this draft, I've always preferred Stroud and this doesn't change that but I would still be thrilled and excited if we pick Young. Some of y'all need to stop overreacting

nah I'll take Scoot or the murderer for bama, if we don't get a top 3 pick then we're fuged. well we're probably fuged anyways it's the hornets lol

Being a cocky douche isn't the reason for Burrow's success at all lol. He could easily not be a douche and be just as good and even more well respected by teammates. If Stroud can play like Burrow on the field and not be a douche then we've struck gold (assuming he's the pick which we have no idea still).

Love TD but he doesn’t know poo, not tuned in at all with this admin

The blitz/pressure numbers are interesting as Stroud gets a lot of criticism on that front.

I think both are equally good overall just in different ways. I like Stroud's pros a bit more than Young's pros and a bit more concerned about Young's cons than Stroud's but both have a pretty equal number of pros/cons in my opinion. So I do slightly prefer us drafting CJ and voted for that however I really am good with either, will be every bit as excited if we choose Young as I would've if we chose CJ. Both are legit 15+ year franchise QB prospects and I think we're well positioned for either one of them to have success here.

I don't think this is true. The dude can make all the throws consistently. His arm talent is better than any outside of Lawrence in the last several years. Young has other skills to make up for that gap but Stroud is the best pure passer in this draft and it's not particularly close.

I wouldn't read too much into the timing with the combine. We were most likely negotiating with the Bears for a while before the deal got done. And regarding Reich and height -- it's such a small sample size that it really means nothing. He only had control over who his QB was in Indy as HC and he inherited Luck/Brissett. Then when did he really even have a realistic chance to acquire a legit short QB? Rivers made sense and did well there. Wentz was with him in Philly and made sense to take a shot on and same for Ryan. What short QB did he pass over for those guys? Wilson? Didn't seem like ownership/front office was too interested in investing a ton in the QB position those last few years and Reich is on record saying he has always liked Wilson.

If they are dead even in our evaluations and we truly can't decide then maybe. But if it's a 1a/1b you 100% just stay at 1, don't fug around, and take the guy you like a bit better.

Yeah exactly, this is why I don't see any chance at all that we even try to trade down, probably just "reports" to continue to drive interest in the draft and all the media coverage surrounding it for the 6 weeks leading up to it. Also I don't really buy that we don't already have a guy in mind. No reason for us to tip our hand so we'll say otherwise but I think we're already pretty damn set on either Young or Stroud.

Appreciate what you do, definitely one of the good ones. But no one is perfect in draft season lol

Young and Stroud both excite me a ton just in different ways. Both have a few concerns too, neither is a can’t miss prospect. But I think with our OL, free agency and coaching staff whichever it is will be well set up for success. I still think we take Stroud, who I do slightly prefer, but I’d love Young too if that’s who it is. Natalie has been hit or miss, generally pretty good but I’m not buying this as gospel at this point.

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Lol what a ridiculously stupid topic. We have the 1st overall pick and are taking a QB with it to start day 1. End of story.