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Along with his accomplishments, not much more needs to be said. I’m all for going after him for HC barring a Harbaugh union

Samir Suleiman is already the alleged "cap expert." We've seen how that's worked out the past few years. Get us some damn old school in the weeds football people in the front office. I like the Dallas guy that someone brought up here. We need a significant influx of talent, with less draft capital than other teams have. Cap expert is a total joke if you don't have talented football players to start with.

disastrous. tepper is doubling down on being fuging retarded a team void of talent is ignoring building out the scouting aspect of the front office. genius!

not a CFB guy so don't care at all. although maybe Tepper will try to convince him to give the NFL one last shot and we'll have another disastrous debacle on our hands.

happy for him. and what do ya know, another 1st round hit by Hurney

also the TD run called back by stupid illegal formation penalty

so fuging stupid. we need an elite talent evaluator GM and we need that guy to choose a HC that fits his vision for the roster and how he'll build it out with the talent he finds. OR give Harbaugh the keys to the franchise to do whatever he wants and bring in whoever he wants

if we decide not to keep him at DC couldn't we try to trade him to the Jags or elsewhere since he's under contract as DC? Couldn't block him getting a promotion to HC but could get something out of him going elsewhere as a DC

dawg, I believe! Ever the optimist, I envision Harbaugh leading this team to a SB victory and sustained success (i.e. back to back winning seasons for the first time ever!) with Tepper learning from his past mistakes and letting him do it the way he wants to.

source?

nope, clear house don't want anyone who has the stench to remain

Ehh I disagree. Julio Jones was a notoriously terrible TD and red zone guy yet he was not only a #1 but one of the best weapons in the league period and demanded a ton of defense’s attention. Moore is a low end #1, probably a top 15 WR.

LOL shoulda heard the Aints fans around me at our playoff game in 2017 when Cam went out for a play late in the game before coming back in… lousy excuse for Tepper being an idiot/douche

A few things at play here. 1) Most likely scenario is that Tepper hires people who believe in Bryce and sell him a plan for winning with Bryce. He’s going to want to try to not look like a dumbass for going all in for Bryce. 2) In the absence of that scenario there could absolutely still be plenty of legit qualified people who may believe in Bryce and want him as their QB. He was 1st overall for a reason and was regarded as a potential generational prospect if he had the conventional size. For as bad as Bryce has been his size really hasn’t been the issue at all so I’m sure plenty of coaches think they could get much more out of him. So depends who we hire. 3) The thing that’ll keep him safe on the roster is that he has more value to us than he has to other teams. What team would give more than a 3rd for him right now? If we keep him as a backup next year his value doesn’t change that much and we could still trade him later. No reason to push him out for pretty much nothing in return at this point. May as well keep him around as an option. However this doesn’t mean he should or will be handed the starting job again. Any new staff should just be treating him as a piece on the roster that will have to completely earn his playing time. If a 3rd round rookie comes in and outplays him then by all means let that guy start over him.

wonder if some team in the top 10-15 picks would trade their 1st for him

I think he'll land as a DC somewhere and be solid, albeit not amazing. Doubt he gets a HC job again

Dumbass

in reality it really doesn't matter which of the 3 make it, whoever it is will get destroyed by Philly almost certainly.

I hate the Falcons but I'm pulling for us and them to win so that we see another team with a losing record win this division. Will put even more of a spotlight on how fuging terrible Tepper is that we're this bad in a division that has had back to back losing record division winners.

Tepper should be begging him to consider us. Dumbass

I'll be "in" for this season in the sense that I'll still follow the team and watch all the early games, but I will have no expectations of lasting the full season when we most likely inevitably suck again and I won't invest in the team at all. I went to our opener in Atlanta this year (first game attended since before covid) and had planned to go to multiple more games including Jax but with the season down the drain halfway through I scrapped those plans. If Tepper lucks into making the right decisions at HC and GM and somehow we have a quick turn around and are sitting in a playoff spot in the final month of the season or so maybe I'll think about reinvesting, going to games, etc. but definitely will not do any more than watch the games early in the year.

Like it or not, he's a very public figure and the personal stuff becomes public. Especially when he's in the news for things like the drink thing. You don't have to engage in it and I agree it's a waste of time to discuss but public figures are not off limits, just comes with the territory and Tepper knew what he was getting into when he bought an NFL team. Also if you go that far you have to apply it evenly. I.e. separating the football player from the guy off the field like in the Hardy situation or a Miles Bridges situation. Do you expect fans to ignore things like those and basically take the stance that if someone isn't in prison they can play football and should only be discussed from a football perspective? Personally I would like it that way but I know it's not even remotely realistic as most can't separate the things.

And only 1 of those teams won a SB with that 1st overall pick on the team and by that point in his career, the Chiefs could've easily won that SB without Fisher (won another without him a couple years later anyways). Pro bowl is also an absolute joke lately, seems like half the starters in the league have at least 1 pro bowl appearance since so many first (and even second and third) choices drop out each year. Looking through the list of those picks, I count 5, maybe 6 actual impact players out of the last 15. Best way to improve the odds of not drafting a bust isn't having higher picks, it's having a better GM and front office. Teams with sustained success hit on their picks year in and year out despite always picking later in each round. Yes it sucks to give up 1st overall pick, having a good GM would make that an incredible asset to have. But the important thing is getting the right GM and HC not any individual pick.

The reality is none of us really know. The drink thing wasn't a good look. There have been some other reports/hearsay about how he treats his employees that don't shed the brightest light on him. Whether you believe those or not is up to you but it really doesn't matter because none of us know the man. I tend to not judge people I haven't actually known personally unless people I really trust have strong opinions about them. But all that being said, that just speaks to David Tepper the man. David Tepper the owner can absolutely be judged, as the truly embarrassing results speak for themselves. He is a terrible owner and has run this franchise into the ground, that's not really debatable. Could he possibly turn it around? Sure we've seen crazier things in this world. But odds seem pretty low and he doesn't seem willing to truly look in the mirror and change his behavior. My biggest concern has been him bringing his hedge fund mindset to the NFL. In his hedge funds things that looked like terrible decisions could be waited out and look genius when given time. That doesn't really apply to what look like terrible decisions in the NFL. Especially combined with his ego and lack of patience and ability to actually trust football people. As much as people love to hate on Rhule here, he was screwed from the start. He came in with a plan to rebuild the team completely from scratch which he said would take 5 years. He was given less than 2.5 years. Tepper fired him due to "lack of progression/improvement" but that was very short sighted as I think the team and roster did progress and improve under Rhule, it just wasn't readily visible. Wilks taking over made it more visible for a brief spell and it would've made sense to stick with him and keep building on that momentum. Instead Tepper decides to blow it all up and undo that progress by trading everything for a QB and overhauling the coaching staff while having his hands all over it. There was so much dysfunction with Reich's staff that it's pretty obvious Tepper was driving almost all the assistant hires, which is just absurd. And as bad as this year has been to throw in the towel on Reich before 1 season is even up is also absurd. Dude just has no fuging clue what he's doing

I think Ben Navarro would've been good. Really passionate about sports (daughter is a pro tennis player) and the Carolinas (tried to get a huge tennis complex and big tournament moved to Charlotte) and seems likely to have has the humility to realize that he's not a football expert so he would be more likely to rely on truly knowledgeable football experts to help him hire front office and coaching staffs unlike Tepper who makes the decision himself thinking he's a genius and can apply his wall street knowledge to football. I partly blame JR for letting the NFL basically take control of the sale and choose who it got sold to. An owner who cared about the Panthers wouldn't have chosen to sell to Tepper.