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That basic concept (not the pages, but beginning on topic and drifting away) applies to all discussions and/or debates ever in life.

AFC East is up there in sh*tty divisions.

We don't "need" another corner. It would help but it's not needed with Bene and Norman in place. Harper started carrying his weight towards the end of last season when the young guys started stepping up, so SS isn't our biggest need, but yes we should definitely upgrade at SS, or move Tre to SS and get a FS. The guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

Most of that was on Boston, in my opinion. Seattle did an amazing job in both games against us of exploiting Boston's weaknesses. He definitely needs some work but I feel pretty confident he can improve and eliminate those mistakes with a full offseason of work. Definitely need to improve SS, in my opinion, but I Tre can be a longterm answer and Norman and Bene are 100%. Just need to lock up Norman longterm, as soon as possible.

I guess Norman, Bene and Tre aren't "a safety and some cornerbacks." What a fool. Entire article should be disregarded based on that alone.

I feel like people forget Tillman was a 1st team all pro in just 2012. He may be up there in age, but the past 2 years he's barely had any wear and tear on him because he was hurt. And it wasn't a lower body injury, just a triceps (which isn't too important for a d-back), so I think in our system under Rivera again and behind our front 7 and with Norman taking the top wideout, he would have an enormous amount of success. That's why I want him on a 2-3 year deal instead of 1, because I feel like he still has a lot left in the tank. This would be a huge signing in my opinion, and I'm still holding out hope we get Jennings. If we can get Peanut and Jennings, this would be an amazing free agency period, in my opinion.

Nothing. Thanks.

Nobody here's "loving" Ron. We're just not blindly criticizing him for things that we aren't qualified to judge. And it's particularly ridiculous when you show you clearly don't know what you're talking about and don't have any facts or logic backing up your argument.

Bene was inserted right when he got healthy. As for Boston you have absolutely no qualifications to judge that and you did not see him play in practice. You saw him come in when he came in, which is when Rivera and the coaching staff thought was the right time, and he played well. If he went in too early he could've looked like sh*t and his confidence would've been down the drain. I'm done preaching to a moron like you who just doesn't get it. Enjoy bashing Rivera.

Bene started at nickel and played there until he got the high ankle sprain (I think against the Bears). His first game back and for the rest of the season, he started on the outside, so you're wrong. Boston wasn't active for the first 5 games and he missed the entire offseason program and had a sh*tload of catching up to do. He was not ready to start until he did end up starting. How's honesty working out for you?

Still better than me. And while he was indeed bad, Rivera isn't to blame for him getting playing time. White was equally as bad and we had nobody else.

No offense, you're retarded.

Maybe Igo is wrong? Wait, no, that couldn't be... He's a football god.

Both Boston and Bene were hurt and rookies who had a lot to learn so there is no way you can possibly judge whether they were ready to play and that Rivera was sitting players that are way better than the starters.

Great article, thanks for posting. Only thing that worries me is this: I don't want us signing him to a 1 year deal, only for him to play lights out like he did in 2012 and then walk like our 2013 signings did. Give him at least a 2 or 3 year deal with incentives and roster bonuses and I'll be happy.

Who else did we have when Godfrey was playing nickel?

Interesting thought. If McD ends up a head coach and Wilks becomes DC maybe Tillman to DBs coach?

Interesting thought. If McD ends up a head coach and Wilks becomes DC maybe Tillman to DBs coach?

Neither Bene or Norman is fast. I just want good guys who can play. Tillman fits that bill despite his age, and he'd come really cheap, as well as mentor our young guys.

Honestly think he would be a better signing than Ball. Would be able to play across from Norman and have Bene the permanent slot guy in nickel packages. Not to mention he's a great guy all around (another NFL Walter Payton Man of the Year winner) and would be great for the locker room and young guys in our secondary. If we can get Tillman and then Jennings as well and if Gettleman drafts like he did last year I honestly see us being a powerhouse in the league, and being a top Super Bowl contender.

I agree. Either Greg's waiting to find his best option, or the prices are off in discussions. I just don't think that we (or another team) wouldn't give him a 3-4 year deal or longer though. I think there's almost zero chance he signs a 1 year deal as you suggested.

And I'm saying he wasn't any more of a threat in Green Bay than he was in Minnesota. Stats are what make it seem like he was worse in Minnesota, but he wasn't. Teams that watch film will be able to realize that. He's aging and has lost speed, so that factors in to a degree, but he was never a burner.

Teams don't look at stats to determine whether they sign a player. So no, teams will not look at that. They will look at the tape. QB play factors into how "good" a WR looks and their stats, and going from Favre/Rodgers to Ponder/Cassell/Bridgewater is quite a big difference. Jennings was never some high-end #1 like he seemed to be (to fans) with the Packers, and like he was paid by the Vikings. But he is a solid #2 or low-end #1, and that held true with both the Packers and Vikings.

He was the same player in Minnesota as he was in Green Bay. Teams know that.

I don't remember the exact tweet, but he never indicated nor implied that another team was signing him. I think he just used Greg's tweet where Greg said he had a done deal. Joe just said the Panthers weren't signing him. Maybe could've clarified it better, but I never got that Greg was signing with another team from what Joe said.