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Let's please not go all in on any QB this year like we have the past 2. Don't need more QB dead cap in 2023... I like the idea of drafting QB(s) and getting Mariota for short and/or cheap as a bridge QB, but please no more sizeable deals to retread QBs. It's worked out so great the last 2 years.

Phenomenal season. More Cam than Rivera though if you ask me. I honestly believe Cam's peak in that 2015 season is one of the greatest all time QB seasons ever, he literally carried trash around him on offense to the SB and being the best offense in the league. I take that season from Cam over any single season from Tom Brady in his entire career -- even his MVP seasons he had elite OLs/weapons and coaching. Cam's success in 2015 was as single-handed as it can get in this sport. And Rivera's shortcomings in adjusting were a large reason we lost the SB. Refs were bad but we also got mostly handled by a much lesser team. Even if we win that year I don't think it changes the narrative all that much, there have been other SB winning HCs who are widely regarded as not being that great. Reality is, Rivera had 3 good seasons here out of 9, never had back to back winning seasons and was on the downtrend at the end.

Ron had worn out his welcome here and still hasn't accomplished a thing in Washington. Great guy, but he's highly unlikely to ever be a SB winning HC. We had to move on.

Careful saying these things around here

There are several factors in our offenses struggles lately. Cam not knowing the offense since he just got here a few weeks ago, OL, etc. But fact of the matter is that anyone who has watched Cam the last several years can see that his throwing shoulder is not stable at all. He cannot drive an offense with his arm at this point. He has some solid passes but way too many of them are completely off the mark, and it's not just normal inaccuracies that any QBs have, it's his arm clearly being unable to consistently throw accurate balls. It's tough to see and his energy and return were a welcome sight after Sam, but Cam is absolutely not the answer at QB going forward.

At this point in his career, he’s not. It’s the reality. His arm his shot and his passes are way too inconsistent.

WOW you listed a bunch of hall of famers. Of course there are more complete players. Burns' skill set is pure pass rusher. Need to scheme around his deficiencies against the run. He's one of the most impactful players on our D. He is absolutely NOT an issue. Is he an elite all around DE? No. But he's an elite pass rusher and has an important role in this D.

It really doesn't matter. PJ is not an NFL QB, Cam is not an NFL QB. Nothing we can do for the future at QB position this year and we obviously aren't winning any games.

Done watching football this year for the most part (will still put the Panthers on but not really caring what happens). Canes and Hornets will get my attention.

He's a pure pass rusher, we drafted him as such, and he's been one of the best in the league. His run D isn't great but that is what it is with an elite pass rusher. Von Miller was never good against the run. At least Burns gives it his all every fuging play, most of these other guys can not say the same.

I've had both on, Canes were on the small screen but didn't take long to go to the big screen. Despite being down 2 I had full confidence we could come back. Zero confidence in the Panthers

Rhule was a Tepper hire, come on. I'd be down with Tepper backing the fug off and giving Fitterer 100% control over all football decisions and hiring a head coach. But Tepper doesn't operate that way and he'll be making the final decision on the coaching staff.

Owner needs to go. If house is cleaned but owner stays he'll just hire clowns with different names and the results will be the same.

Lol such an absurd take

Infuriating watching Joe Brady's offenses. Even worse than Shula frankly.

I just change the channel, set a timer for like 11 minutes.

Nah he was clearly down with 1 second left.

David Tepper needs to turn over control of the team to Tom Dundon, the only competent sports team owner in the Carolinas.

Really glad I didn’t drive the 3 hours to Miami for this game. fug this team

I know Murray and Hopkins were out but I still don’t understand how we beat the Cardinals so badly. Sometimes this coaching staff really does do a tremendous job but then they get smoked by crap teams. I just don’t get it.

Yeah guys I don’t think we’re making the playoffs. And I don’t think we should keep Cam or Sam for next year. Need a clean slate at the QB position and need to go young/potential. Sam theoretically fit that bill but realistically he had already proven he wasn’t an NFL QB. I’d do what the Skins did in the RG3 draft and take a QB in the 1st and on day 2. More darts to throw

Hoskins is a stud.

Yep, 2 options. 1. Try to find a taker for him even if we have to give up a mid round pick (unlikely) 2. Cut our losses and release him

What are the tailgate plans? Is roaring riot doing one?

I’ve been down on the west coast of FL the past week on vacation, have been thinking about making the drive East for the game. Would’ve been more likely to go if we had won last week...