Devil Doc

People are getting tested, regardless of symptoms. Is this not what I just said "The dip in cases is directly correlated to fewer tests, it's not due to a smaller percentage of positive tests". Yes, We are finding less positive cases, because of less test. People are already positive, and there is possibly millions that are positive that we have not found yet. Instead of being focused on positive cases, which do not mean anything, we need to be focused on deaths. The same amount of people are going to the virus regardless of testing, we just have to find them.

It would be great to test everyone, to isolate those who are positive, which would have course make the positive cases go up. At this very late point in the game, since testing is very disarray and sporadic, keeping track of deaths, and not positive cases, should be the focus. The slinky effect of this Virus still has 3 flights of stairs to go.

Ya, I got nothing. If you think that is dumb, that is on you. People are going to get the virus, there is no stopping it. It is just when they will get it, and when we will find it. Will we have a vaccine before everyone get the Virus? Who knows. Will the virus circle back around to the states who have opened back up? Who knows. The problem is, people have this Virus, they can have it for awhile and not be tested. Hell, I could have the Virus, and be spreading it around, who knows. Is me having the Virus going to change anything? The people I have been around have already been exposed, I will not be exposing more, due to social distancing, wearing a mask, hand washing, not visiting new stores, etc.

Ok, I wanted your opinion. Looking at the data, what I assumed is true. We are just finding cases with testing, they are not exactly "New" cases.

So, does this mean that increased testing did equal increase in cases? I am under the assumption that we already have people who have the Virus, we are just finding more, it is not really new cases.

I would say maybe travel to another county, to get tested, maybe it is not as bad? I dunno? I have seen it take average 2-5 Days, worse is 10.

Yep, that is the way it is around most of the country. Unless, you are rich and have faster ways to test. The Government and multiple municipalities are working hard everyday to make it faster, hang in there.

I am now Two for Two.. I replaced all of my House Filters with ones that kill viruses ( Study showed that Virus spreads through A/C). I also since March have lost 35 pounds, bringing me to an BMI of 31.6 from 36.6. Science is awesome.

We are definitely not in our first wave, that past April 20th. What we are experiencing now is catch up, The North got it first, now it is the Souths Turn.

Ive been changing my filters and buying the ones that filter out Viruses and Bacteria.. thinking of which. I need to buy new filters.. lol. Thanks for the reminder.

Other side of the coin. Lets say that "Protesting/Gatherings" that is not on the beach, as you said, created little transmissions. Now, with that information, if someone wants to have a gathering, they will just call it a protest. Do you not see what was created when there is double standards like that?

Studies show it does not increase transmissions rate.. that is what I have a problem with. You cannot in your mind tell me that poo isn't fabricated. When they specifically tell you that outdoor gatherings and protest are different. If you want to believe that there is not extra curricular activities after a protest or massive gatherings, then that is on you. You are going to tell me that the only reason there is not transmission is because what they do afterwards? C'mon man. I just find it convenient that they will do this study to justify a gathering

You cannot differentiate between the two. That is the point. If you are going to close down beaches, then close down any other gatherings of similar or congregated masses.

I am in school for a Masters in Emergency and Disaster Management.. this exact topic is drilled into the doctrine. The Feds are not hear to bail you out everytime, they are here to assist and provide an extra layer, they are NOT in charge. The more the states and local government rely on the Federal Government, it creates higher budgets, thinning of personnel, and too much bureaucracy. You State and Local Government is responsible for your mitigation, recovery and response, with guidance from the Federal Government.

Is there proof that these Beach Goers, are not the same as protesters, or not the same as other gatherings? Were these beach goers a certain political party or certain political agendas? This is the point I am trying to make.

This is just a slight example. The issue is, when you start pointing fingers at certain political parties or people who are in a certain political party, but do not point fingers at the other side... it does not help anything.

Which was exactly my point of shamming people.. Your going to Shame one, but not the other? That does not help the situation. When the News channels do this ( Which there is proof they did) all it created was a attitude of discontent.

I can see where you are coming from.. in your circle of observation it is politically motivated. I have seen it from both sides honestly. One example, is a twitter video of a local club... no one was wearing a mask, and no one was social distancing. Why we do not know the political origins of the patrons of this club, however, to think they are all the same political party is also projection.

Was the Pool party in the Ozarks, not outside either? That is the other thing that creates confusion. You want to shut down beaches, and outdoor activities... but yet protest, or other cause gatherings are ok? Certain things are shut down, but similar things are not?

I agree with this too.. but Pandemic Deniers are not just MAGA's Anit-Maskers are just not MAGA's. This is another thing the news is doing, it is trying to implant the behaviors and ideas of people into categories. I know plenty of people who hate Trump, and are Democrats.. who hate wearing the mask, and/or do not wear the mask.. just as much as I do Republicans.

No, it is not a Federal Issue. It has been left up to the states. You are acting like the Government can just overstep, they can't. What can the Government do? Martial Law? That is about it. If there is a law created, it will take months to be enacted and voted on, just like States. Who cares if encouraging wearing a mask or social distancing isn't working, you think forcing laws or shamming people is going to do any better? You think the news telling people to fear the Virus is doing them any good? Cooper made things worse by doing a mask mandate.. instead of going through the proper channels and creating a law. All the Government can do, which they are, is provide support for testing and supplies. All the Government can do is run ads on TV about social distancing and mask wearing.. which they are. I think you overestimate the Federal Government capabilities, and what there role is.

Wrong Again.. you have no proof of this.

This is exactly my point. You are forgetting to show the other side. You think it is just MAGA-Warriors that are making bad decisions of not wearing a mask or social distancing? This shows me you listen to biased news.

I have no problems them reporting how bad the Trump administration is doing, what I have a problem with is them not mentioning any other factors. I have a problem with them not reporting that is based on density, economic, hospitals per capita and age. They fail to report that the the States and Local Government that chose what to do and not to do. The Federal Government has no control, nor should they, it is a State/Local issue first. If the States can't or will not do anything or protect themselves, that is on the states, not the Government. The news should not be like.. well If I was in charge, or this expert says.. no, nothing you or I could have done, it is a natural process, it is a Virus that needs to run its course. We can encourage people to social distance, wear a mask, etc.. but that is just it.. Encourage.. not Blame, Incite Fear, No Shame people.... that is not up to the News to decide. The news should not be reinforcing anything, just reporting the news, that is the issue. They can show graphs, data and other things, and instead of doom and gloom, they can say encouraging things like or think positively and no negatively. When the news changed from giving you information and reporting, to telling you and shamming you.. it is not NEWS.

The thing about Taco Bell is not news either. What is reporting how bad the executive is failing has to do news wise, or how is this information going to help or inform the public? It won't. ?How is reporting death and despair going to change anything? It won't. People are tired of hearing about it, people have given up caring and have other important poo to worry about. The news talks about it, when the relevancy of the Virus is fading. The News is news, it is not opinion, is it not to bash a political figure, it is not to run all day news on how bad someone is failing, or how bad someone is. It needs to be the news. Report the data, report what you see.. and that's it. I do no know why you want to nitpick the conditions of McAllen, TX.. and not mention the other gregarious errors from other states, country and around the world. I am on the opinion that the Virus DOES NOT need the scrutiny it is getting. All it does is instill fear, panic, and chaos. This Virus does not need to be looked at under a microscope... by so called NEWS organizations. The News needs to report news, let the people decide how serious the VIRUS is.. not the media.